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    Default Secular intelligent design theory(Panspermia)/Extraterrestrial seeding of planetary life

    Proponents of this theory would argue that it's not ID, but I beg to differ. How is it any different? This theory is more a philosophical inquiry than a scientific one.

    The hypothesis that Earth was intentionally seeded with life by a preceding extraterrestrial civilization is believed to be currently untestable. However, analysis of the situation where humans themselves embark on seeding other planetary systems motivated by survival and propagation of life reveals at least two ethical issues calling for specific solutions. Assuming that generally intelligence evolves ethically as it evolves technologically, the same considerations might be applied to test the hypothesis of directed panspermia: if life on Earth was seeded intentionally, the two ethical requirements are expected to be satisfied, what appears to be the case.
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    Actually, this theory dates back to 5th century BC, when Greek philosopher Anaxagoras made reference to it, albeit on a much smaller scale, in his writings. The theory has been passed around over the centuries, and when Asteroids (found in 1984 and 1996), appeared to show organic molecules, the theory gained again in popularity. In July 2013, microbiologist Milton Wainwright claimed, that he found an actual "seed of life." After launching a weather balloon into the stratosphere, he claimed that balloon came back with traces of 'alien life'. Many scientists were skeptical of his claims, as similar reports had previously turned out to be erroneous. Wainwright’s credibility was also put into question, even though scientists or journalists have suggested, that he's lying about actually finding the organisms. In my opinion, anything that manages to survive 25 miles above the Earth's surface, is surely worth further study.

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    Not a theory. Not even a hypothesis. Just an idea.

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    Same thing as religions as far as I am concerned.....well any religion that says humans were basically created by interdimentional (spirit realm) space (heaven) beings.

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    All the thing does is pushing back the moment when chemical processes started to self organise and life begun. It does not actually answer any questions, so why bother?
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    Default The original idea about seeding is not Secular intelligent design theory

    The difference here is the word "directed". It is, at this point, speculation. The "seeding" life has to be the most primitive form possible, or there would be no primitive forms here. It cannot be some alien who send several levels of lifeforms, because that would be obvious in the fossil record. How could Wainwright determine that the life he allegedly found is "alien" anyway? It actually creates a counter argument - if it really is "alien", then it's different from earth life in some fundamental way - and therefore not what seeded earth life originally! Has he made an actual paper, and is his ideas also about "directed" seeding by intelligent aliens?

    The video above claims that "modern science and ancient alien theory has come to the same conclusion, that life on earth "came from the stars" which is total bullshit. The scientific speculation about "seeding" is not at all about that, it is about the building blocks of life coming from asteroids or comets. No aliens involved. Also, the idea of ancient aliens does not in any way imply that earth was seeded by alien life. The original ancient aliens ideas was about aliens visiting earth and helping humans to become civilized. It's different concept. Aliens seeding earth does also not imply that aliens themselves came to earth, because if that was the case, there would be no reason to seed earth with primitive life at all. You can come up with all kinds of possible scenarios, like "they seeded earth billions of years ago so they could come later and live here" or some other nonsense, but it's nothing but wild speculation.

    On the other hand, seeding is a logical step for advanced life. It's the only way to guarantee continued survival. If we were seeded with that purpose, then we should do the same, or all earth life becomes pointless in the long run. However, the video is just like Prometheus, lol.

    I really resent they went from symmetry to describing specifics of mammals and other quadrupeds as if that was some kind of predetermined goals. This jump in arguments, as well as using UFO talk as arguments is absurd. One thing is to suggest that the earth was seeded, but it's a whole nother ballgame to suggest that UFO's were involved and that the existence of ufonauts are supported by the idea of seeding, or that ufonaut stories are supporting seeding. They create a connection here which does not exist, similar style of argumentation as conspiracy theories, using a false premise in some sort of circular reasoning. I stopped watching after that point.

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