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    There's a really old thread here on the subject, but I figured since most of our users have changed it's time to revive this topic in a fresh new thread.

    I know Esperanto never took off and fulfilled its intended purpose, but it seems to have lived on at least among the polyglot/language enthusiast subculture. I've recently come across a handful of interesting books written or translated into Esperanto. I'm almost tempted to learn it (considering how easy it allegedly is) just for the experience of reading a book in this language.

    Has anyone here had any experience with this language? Thoughts? Opinions?



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    Sounds useless, no offense. Languages should be learnt because of its applicability to future trends. The most useful languages to know in the near future are: English, Spanish, Mandarin, French, and maybe even Hindi. This is in no particular order.

    Also, here is an insight into what Esperanto is. It was invented by an Ashkenazi Jew. What are the odds?

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    Default Esperanto: a dynamic and growing language community.

    It's not true that "I know Esperanto never took off and fulfilled its intended purpose..." I see things differently. I see Esperanto as a remarkable success story. It has survived wars and revolutions and economic crises and continues to attract people to learn and speak it. Esperanto works. I've used it in speech and writing in about seventeen countries over recent years. I recommend it to anyone, as a way of making friendly local contacts in other countries.

    I'm all in favour of all language learning, but a choice has to be made. Which language(s) should we be learning for business purposes? Learn Spanish and you’re at a loss In Germany, learn French and you’re illiterate in Russia, learn Chinese and you can’t ask for an ice cream in Portugal. I would respectfully suggest that we take another look at Esperanto, a relatively new language which is easy to learn and use.

    Some 2200 Esperanto speakers from 65 countries will gather in Lille this summer. I'll be among them. Go to: http://www.lve-esperanto.org/lille2015/ This is the 100th such event, a sign of a dynamic and growing language community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khazar View Post
    Sounds useless, no offense. Languages should be learnt because of its applicability to future trends. The most useful languages to know in the near future are: English, Spanish, Mandarin, French, and maybe even Hindi. This is in no particular order.

    Also, here is an insight into what Esperanto is. It was invented by an Ashkenazi Jew. What are the odds?
    Well there are people who enjoy learning languages for the sheer enjoyment, and personal enrichment. The online polyglot culture is an example of that. Of course one would hope that you could actually use the language that you're learning to some degree. I know that Esperanto is so uncommon that the chances of even using it slim to none. But I have to admit I'm kind of intrigued, just based on how its described as being so easy to learn. I wouldn't dedicate much time to Esperanto (I'd save that for real languages), but if I could make serious progress in a short time, I'd give it a try.
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    If you don't speak it already you would probably never start picking it up. It's rowing against the current, learning Esperanto, as it's only kept alive by a niche group of hobbyists.
    I would learn a real language like French, German, Russian, Mandarin, Arabic or whatever language which opens you up to another culture.

    Sure Esperantists have their 'culture' too I guess. You could always try learning it. Enough sources online. I personally think it sounds dull and ugly. That fact alone makes it potentially a hard language, despite its simplicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    If you don't speak it already you would probably never start picking it up. It's rowing against the current, learning Esperanto, as it's only kept alive by a niche group of hobbyists.
    I would learn a real language like French, German, Russian, Mandarin, Arabic or whatever language which opens you up to another culture.

    Sure Esperantists have their 'culture' too I guess. You could always try learning it. Enough sources online. I personally think it sounds dull and ugly. That fact alone makes it potentially a hard language, despite its simplicity.
    Yeah some of the criticism I've read says that a drawback of Esperanto is that it "feels made up." Of course, that can kind of be a double edged sword. I'm currently studying Russian and the frustrating aspects of that language make you wish that parts of it were a little more deliberately made up.
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    The entire point with Esperanto was to create a global, universal and egalitarian, non-exclusive, non-ethnic language. Similar to the GPL license. To a large extent, English has for all intents and purposes, replaced Esperanto. And anyway, even if Esperanto would have been made the official language of every country, it would sooner or later evolve into different dialects and eventually into mutually unintelligible languages, per the rules of sound laws and language change. So I don't see the point with learning Esperanto. And most of it is based on Indo-European languages anyway.

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    Also, here is an insight into what Esperanto is. It was invented by an Ashkenazi Jew. What are the odds?
    The odds are high, for the same reason the GPL license was authored by an Ashkenazi Jew

    Esperanto is the linguistic version of the GPL, and the GPL is the software version of Christianity. Egalitarianism is a Jewish favorite and we've seen reruns of it the past 2000 years in all social sections.
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    Learning Esperanto can be difficult because it's so dull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khazar View Post
    Sounds useless, no offense. Languages should be learnt because of its applicability to future trends. The most useful languages to know in the near future are: English, Spanish, Mandarin, French, and maybe even Hindi. This is in no particular order.

    Also, here is an insight into what Esperanto is. It was invented by an Ashkenazi Jew. What are the odds?
    Arguments for learning a language aren't solely economical. Also cultural and sentimental reasons exist, or even the sake of learning it itself.

    EDIT: Oh dear, I've already posted here.
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    It sucks.


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