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    A2rh- and Orh-

    If King Tut was A2MNRH-
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...f/224325a0.pdf
    & his ydna results were never officially released, and or he was never retested. KV-55 would have same, which was confirmed-
    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article....ticleid=185393
    However both have never been retested,[as far as I know] and or original ydna figures never released.
    As for the the Sinai Bedouin? If you are referring to the ones in A.E Mourant diagram/study, the Towara. They would have been heavily type Occddee. By the way "Quraysh" would have been a group amongst these tribes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarabi...edouin_map.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarabin_bedouin
    I don't know where Ignea came up with these str's, they could be all made up; however in A2rh- would add to this credability to this general location, ie Saami [A2]as you are aware.
    https://www.igenea.com/en/tutankhamun

    https://www.amazon.ca/Moses-Monothei.../dp/157898937X


    A lot of information can be gleaned from:
    http://academic.research.microsoft.c...23/a-e-mourant
    For example the difference between Basque,Ashkenazi and Sephardi and Eastern influences like "B" frequency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhesusnegative View Post
    On the mtDNA side, research confirms Basque and Ashkenazi relationship:

    (More details here: Is there a Basque-Jewish-Rh Negative connection?)
    I would swear AJs and Basques are not connected. Ask LongBowMan user.

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    Basques and Ashkenazis have no close kinship beyond the regular stuff that binds most West Eurasians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Basques and Ashkenazis have no close kinship beyond the regular stuff that binds most West Eurasians.
    I suppose people link them because of K haplogroup but it does not mean anything, doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fd876 View Post
    I suppose people link them because of K haplogroup but it does not mean anything, doesn't it?
    MTDNA K is common everywhere however, very Neolithic clade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    A2rh- and Orh-

    If King Tut was A2MNRH-
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...f/224325a0.pdf
    & his ydna results were never officially released, and or he was never retested. KV-55 would have same, which was confirmed-
    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article....ticleid=185393
    However both have never been retested,[as far as I know] and or original ydna figures never released.
    As for the the Sinai Bedouin? If you are referring to the ones in A.E Mourant diagram/study, the Towara. They would have been heavily type Occddee. By the way "Quraysh" would have been a group amongst these tribes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarabi...edouin_map.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarabin_bedouin
    I don't know where Ignea came up with these str's, they could be all made up; however in A2rh- would add to this credability to this general location, ie Saami [A2]as you are aware.
    https://www.igenea.com/en/tutankhamun

    https://www.amazon.ca/Moses-Monothei.../dp/157898937X


    A lot of information can be gleaned from:
    http://academic.research.microsoft.c...23/a-e-mourant
    For example the difference between Basque,Ashkenazi and Sephardi and Eastern influences like "B" frequency.
    Thank you for the additional information. Unfortunately the video has been removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhesusnegative View Post
    Thank you for the additional information. Unfortunately the video has been removed.
    Some more science you might be interested in.
    Blood groups in ancient Europe
    http://mathii.github.io/2017/09/21/b...ancient-europe


    See: Lazaridis et al:
    "Paleolithic DNA from the Caucasus reveals core of West Eurasian ancestry"

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...23079.full.pdf

    "The earliest ancient DNA data of modern humans from Europe dates to ~40 thousand years ago, but that from the Caucasus and the Near East to only ~14 thousand years ago, from populations who lived long after the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM) ~26.5-19 thousand years ago. To address this imbalance and to better understand the relationship of Europeans and Near Easterners, we report genome-wide data from two ~26 thousand year old individuals from Dzudzuana Cave in Georgia in the Caucasus from around the beginning of the LGM. Surprisingly, the Dzudzuana population was more closely related to early agriculturalists from western Anatolia ~8 thousand years ago than to the hunter-gatherers of the Caucasus from the same region of western Georgia of ~13-10 thousand years ago. Most of the Dzudzuana population's ancestry was deeply related to the post-glacial western European hunter-gatherers of the 'Villabruna cluster', but it also had ancestry from a lineage that had separated from the great majority of non-African populations before they separated from each other, proving that such 'Basal Eurasians' were present in West Eurasia twice as early as previously recorded. We document major population turnover in the Near East after the time of Dzudzuana, showing that the highly differentiated Holocene populations of the region were formed by 'Ancient North Eurasian' admixture into the Caucasus and Iran and North African admixture into the Natufians of the Levant. We finally show that the Dzudzuana population contributed the majority of the ancestry of post-Ice Age people in the Near East, North Africa, and even parts of Europe, thereby becoming the largest single contributor of ancestry of all present-day West Eurasians."

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    Very interesting indeed. Very high frequencies in the Steppe (Yamnas?). But my question is as follows:
    The Celts/Yamnas invaded the Proto-Basques and pretty much replaced the original I2a and G2a y-DNA within their population with R1b, right? Since Basques to this day have the highest proven percentages of rh negatives, then that would mean a different ancient group possibly from Caucasus/Fertile Crescent being responsible for that high rh- frequency, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhesusnegative View Post
    Very interesting indeed. Very high frequencies in the Steppe (Yamnas?). But my question is as follows:
    The Celts/Yamnas invaded the Proto-Basques and pretty much replaced the original I2a and G2a y-DNA within their population with R1b, right? Since Basques to this day have the highest proven percentages of rh negatives, then that would mean a different ancient group possibly from Caucasus/Fertile Crescent being responsible for that high rh- frequency, right?
    Possible but highly unlikely with the new 26,000 ybp result from Georgia. Basal Caucasian might even be implicated in the formation în populations South of he Caucasus,although we do not know for sure-could be a another separate line.


    We document major population turnover in the Near East after the time of Dzudzuana, showing that the highly differentiated Holocene populations of the region were formed by 'Ancient North Eurasian' admixture into the Caucasus and Iran and North African admixture into the Natufians of the Levant. We finally show that the Dzudzuana population contributed the majority of the ancestry of post-Ice Age people in the Near East, North Africa, and even parts of Europe, thereby becoming the largest single contributor of ancestry of all present-day West Eurasians."
    You might have to email the scientist of the Yamnaya rh- to verify if they do not if fact have higher rh- than Basque. Do parts of Georgia-Caucasus not have high frequency of rh negatives.
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