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    Erdogan appears to be losing power, the old tricks don't work anymore, the country is developing beyond his control now.

    There is a decent chance he will be defeated in the upcoming elections and hopefully the path for further and irreversible de-islamisation will be set for Turkey.

    I wouldnt be surprised to see Erdogan do something crazy in the remaining two weeks. Someone American/Israeli like, a war of some kind?

    we'll see.

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    Merkel’s Islamic State: German comedian Jan Böhmermann faces prison for “smear poem’ about Turkish President Erdogan - http://pamelageller.com/2016/04/merk....SS3VE7x5.dpuf

    Jan Böhmermann is the same man who did this useless song about how tolerant and multicultural Germans are supposed to be
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    here's a recent picture of Böhmermann:
    http://i.imgur.com/TLZBLvd.jpg
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    German court upholds its ban on comedian's Erdogan poem.

    The Hamburg court said that it stands by its order, issued last May, which prohibited republication of parts of a poem by German comic Jan Boehmermann.
    The satirist, who is barred for repeating the majority of the verses, says he will appeal the verdict.
    The poem, first broadcast in 2016, led to a free speech debate in Germany, and diplomatic tension with Turkey.
    Mr Boehmermann's lawyer, Christian Schertz, said Friday's verdict "does not take into account freedom of artistic expression".
    But in a statement, the court said: "Satire that is secured under artistic freedom could be forbidden when it touches on the core area of personal freedom."
    However, the court also said that a head of state must expect heavier criticism than a regular citizen.
    The poem played on President Erdogan's reputation for cracking down on free speech at home, and included vulgar sexual references.
    The Turkish president filed a criminal complaint against the satirist after it was broadcast on German television last March.
    The criminal charges were later dropped, but the poem remains banned in Germany.

    The case hinges on a rarely used 19th-century section of German's criminal code that prohibits defamation of foreign heads of state.
    Mr Boehmermann, considered Germany's most incisive satirist, had read the obscene poem on his Neo Magazin Royale programme, making clear that it included material that broke German laws on free speech.
    After the case became a national talking point, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the authorities would move to repeal article 103 - concerning insults against foreign heads of state - by 2018.
    President Erdogan has drawn much criticism in Turkey and internationally for targeting political opponents and jailing journalists.
    In its first ruling, the court in Hamburg said that comments on Mr Erdogan's treatment of freedom of speech were allowed, but said the sexual references were unacceptable.
    The court objected to 18 of the poem's 24 lines, deeming them "abusive and defamatory"
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38934027

    Germany is probably the only country that allowed a foreign politician, to do part of their election campaigning within the country. Erdogan has been allowed to do it repeatedly, by filling soccer stadiums with Turks living in Germany. And to make it worse, German election posters, he did not like, had to be removed around the venue, and along the route he was travelling from and to.





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    Turks are a sensitive people, they lose their shit everytime normal people attack their muslim hellhole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janos View Post
    Turks are a sensitive people, they lose their shit everytime normal people attack their muslim hellhole.
    Much like Swedes who go full boo-hoo each time people attack our Feminist hellhole. This phenomenon is pretty much universally persistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janos View Post
    Turks are a sensitive people, they lose their shit everytime normal people attack their muslim hellhole.
    You once were quite sensitive when one of those fin-türks said Sweden is not a crowded state and cant possibly have big populated protests/demonstrations about a random topic I remember you even insulted for that non sense reason about your christian hellhole

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    Erdoğan accuses Germany of 'Nazi practices' over blocked political rallies

    The Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, has lashed out at Germany for blocking several rallies on its soil in the run-up to a referendum in Turkey, likening its stance to Nazi practices.
    Its funny, the PM Yıldırım also criticized German Democracy while their government forbids any protests, arrest any dissident person, threatening people
    THis must be a joke, but serious

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tu...KBN16C0KD?il=0

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ection-rallies
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    Turkey blocks Wikipedia under law designed to protect national security
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ional-security
    Turkey has blocked Wikipedia, the country’s telecommunications watchdog has said, citing a law that allows it to ban access to websites deemed obscene or a threat to national security.

    Later on Saturday, Turkish authorities said they had sacked more than 3,900 civil servants, and military and police personnel as the purge of alleged anti-government officials continued, and also banned TV dating shows.

    The move to close down Wikipedia access is likely to further worry rights groups and Turkey’s western allies, who say Ankara has curtailed freedom of speech and other basic rights in the crackdown that followed last year’s failed coup.

    “After technical analysis and legal consideration … an administrative measure has been taken for this website,” the BTK telecoms authority said in a statement on its website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janos View Post
    Turkey blocks Wikipedia under law designed to protect national security
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ional-security
    This is very good news, I hope Wikipedia doesn't give in to "pressure" from the Turkish government's standard asshole behavior. The less internet in Turkey, the better.

    Turkey as a country should be abolished anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    This is very good news, I hope Wikipedia doesn't give in to "pressure" from the Turkish government's standard asshole behavior. The less internet in Turkey, the better.

    Turkey as a country should be abolished anyway.
    Dö Türks ör nöt redü för dö trüth, Erdogan thinks.
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