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    Quote Originally Posted by Brava View Post
    True.
    But the Hyksos didn't bring any alternative culture of their own, they were like the barbarians that invaded Rome. A bunch of nomads from the Levant who knew the art of war.
    You may be right, but you must careful with the Ancient Egyptian literature. It's mostly state literature and it often depicts the enemy in bad light as a form of war propaganda. A terrorists for the American can be considered a liberator by their own people (of course, they can also be real terrorists against their own people like Boko Haram or the Islamic State/Al Qaeda). Mandela was described as a terrorist. He was on the US government terrorist list up until 2008! Google it. With all the negative propaganda along with it. But he was also seen as one of the liberators by his people before he got jailed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ep2 View Post
    You may be right, but you must careful with the Ancient Egyptian literature. It's mostly state literature and it often depicts the enemy in bad light as a form of war propaganda. A terrorists for the American can be considered a liberator by their own people (of course, they can also be real terrorists against their own people like Boko Haram or the Islamic State/Al Qaeda). Mandela was described as a terrorist. He was on the US government terrorist list up until 2008! Google it. With all the negative propaganda along with it. But he was also seen as one of the liberators by his people before he got jailed.
    The picture we have of these events are not entirely based on Egyptian accounts. Canaanite sources among others confirm these historical facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brava View Post
    The picture we have of these events are not entirely based on Egyptian accounts. Canaanite sources among others confirm these historical facts.
    What are these Canaanite sources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ep2 View Post
    What are these Canaanite sources?
    Google the Amarna tablets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brava View Post
    Which "Black" truth?

    Even beyoku just stated "black" identity is ambiguous and can be interpreted relatively to the society you belong to.

    If African-Americans consider "Black" and cherish it as their core identity then that's absolutely fine, i salute them.
    But don't shove it down other people's throat, in particular towards those who lived during antiquity.

    American modern politics, is just that, American modern politics. Respect that!
    The word "Kemet" even meant the black land (referring to the people).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ether View Post
    KMT = refers to the black SOIL... not their skin or racial perception of themselves. As the Egyptian Nile Valley is surrounded by vast areas of desert, the rich black soil became something they identified with.
    I am new here. It's an interesting discussion.

    Maybe I can be of help here, to take a way some of the confusion!?




    What does Kemet mean?

    "Prior to Europe’s involvement with Egypt, the people of Ancient Egypt had many names for their country such as ‘Ta Mery’ (the beloved land), ‘Ta Sety’ (the land of the bow) which was used for the southern most regions of the country and Nubia (see below). Another name was 'Kemet', which means ‘the black land’. All of these names were originally spelt without vowels, so for example Kmt."

    Today, for obvious reasons, the name Kemet is associated with a more African-centred approach to looking at ‘Egypt’. For this reason the gallery that you are currently viewing is called Virtual Kemet. In adopting this name we hope to remind people that the ‘Ancient Egypt’ is an African civilization and that whilst the culture had contact with people from other civilizations, it was essentially African in its culture and well as its geographical placement.

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    There are many links between ancient Egyptian and modern African culture, ranging from objects such as headrests to hairstyles such as the side lock, and this and other evidence support the idea that it was an African culture in addition to being geographically in Africa. For these reasons Egypt is seen by people of African descent as part of their cultural heritage and history. The concept of Egypt as part of Africa is not a new one. Some of the earliest travellers to Egypt came from the ancient cultures of Greece and Rome, including Greek philosophers, mathematicians, scientists, writers and poets who came to learn from the priests. To the Greeks and Romans, Egypt was an African country, and their artists depicted the Egyptians as Africans, with black skin and tightly curled hair, described by the Greek historian Herodotos in the fifth century BC as 'woolly'.
    --University of Cambridge

    http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept...tualkemet/faq/

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    Obviously a "black" people would not call themselves black in antiquity. It would be so fucking bizarre if they did, especially considering some of their neighbors were black as well (IE Nubians and the many other people of the southern area.) They may have been what some people would call "black" at some point, but that may have no connection with the word KMT.

    After all, Egyptian graves from 2k years ago definitely depict people who looks just like modern egyptians (who do not all look the same anyway). So the preposterous idea that Tally Up tried to come up with, that there has been a fundamental change since 750 AD only, seems to contradict the immediate evidence of grave depictions.

    This is not exactly a scholarly article, but I do think the Cambridge article leaves out some fact:
    http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/kmt.htm

    Since the spelling of KMT is actually hieroglyphs, KMT is then a transliteration of some sort.
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    If this were true, then why wasn't there west African blood found in other Ancient Near Eastern groups? They mixed around a bit, back then.

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