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    Quote Originally Posted by Gihanga_Rwanda View Post
    This run isn’t very informative imho but I am assuming “basal” is alluding to the hypothetical “basal Eurasian” that resides in North Africa and/or Arabia, which branched off after “Africans” but before “Crown Eurasians”.
    I didn’t get you quite well; what do you mean by “ branched off after ‘Africans’”, and “Crown Eurasian”? Excuse my ignorance

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    Hello everybody? Based on different gedmatch results that I posted, anybody guess for me how much south cushitic I am, please? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espoir View Post
    Hello everybody? Based on different gedmatch results that I posted, anybody guess for me how much south cushitic I am, please? Thanks
    Based on your Harrapaworld results, I think you are approximately 65 - 70% South Cushitic. But I think most people on this forum use the Eurogenes Hunter Gatherer vs Farmer Admixture calculator on Gedmatch to get an approximation of their Cushitic ancestry (I'm not sure though); for example here are the HGvsFA results of an East African:

    Middle Eastern Herder 7.55
    East African Pastoralist 44.97
    Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.35
    Mediterranean Farmer 1.60
    Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 5.81
    Bantu Farmer 39.73

    To calculate his/her cushitic ancestry you have to add up the first three, i.e,...MEH + EAP + OHG + MF = 54.47 (roughly 55%)

    Similarly, using this persons HarappaWorld results:

    E-African 41.82
    W-African 38.06
    SW-Asian 10.90
    Pygmy 4.29
    San 3.32
    Mediterranean 1.59

    When you subtract W-African, Pygmy, and San (some people include this) you get 57.63 South Cushitic.

    Turns out many East Africans come from the same stock! That, IMO is refreshing. I hope more of us get tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karey View Post
    Based on your Harrapaworld results, I think you are approximately 65 - 70% South Cushitic. But I think most people on this forum use the Eurogenes Hunter Gatherer vs Farmer Admixture calculator on Gedmatch to get an approximation of their Cushitic ancestry (I'm not sure though); for example here are the HGvsFA results of an East African:

    Middle Eastern Herder 7.55
    East African Pastoralist 44.97
    Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.35
    Mediterranean Farmer 1.60
    Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 5.81
    Bantu Farmer 39.73

    To calculate his/her cushitic ancestry you have to add up the first three, i.e,...MEH + EAP + OHG + MF = 54.47 (roughly 55%)

    Similarly, using this persons HarappaWorld results:

    E-African 41.82
    W-African 38.06
    SW-Asian 10.90
    Pygmy 4.29
    San 3.32
    Mediterranean 1.59

    When you subtract W-African, Pygmy, and San (some people include this) you get 57.63 South Cushitic.

    Turns out many East Africans come from the same stock! That, IMO is refreshing. I hope more of us get tested.
    Thank you so much. Based on my Eurogenes Hunter-gatherer Vs Farmer,
    PoMiddle Eastern herders 15.66
    South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.55

    East African Pastoralist 49.87
    Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 1.04
    Mediterranean Farmer 0.22
    Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 6.64
    Bantu Farmer 26.00
    One would say that I'm ~66% South Cushitic.
    How comes Luxmanda cave woman has 4% Bantu farmer when its said that she died before "bantu" came in the region?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karey View Post
    Based on your Harrapaworld results, I think you are approximately 65 - 70% South Cushitic. But I think most people on this forum use the Eurogenes Hunter Gatherer vs Farmer Admixture calculator on Gedmatch to get an approximation of their Cushitic ancestry (I'm not sure though); for example here are the HGvsFA results of an East African:

    Middle Eastern Herder 7.55
    East African Pastoralist 44.97
    Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.35
    Mediterranean Farmer 1.60
    Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 5.81
    Bantu Farmer 39.73

    To calculate his/her cushitic ancestry you have to add up the first three, i.e,...MEH + EAP + OHG + MF = 54.47 (roughly 55%)

    Similarly, using this persons HarappaWorld results:

    E-African 41.82
    W-African 38.06
    SW-Asian 10.90
    Pygmy 4.29
    San 3.32
    Mediterranean 1.59

    When you subtract W-African, Pygmy, and San (some people include this) you get 57.63 South Cushitic.

    Turns out many East Africans come from the same stock! That, IMO is refreshing. I hope more of us get tested.
    Here is my Harappaworld results

    Population Percent
    1 E-African 47.36
    2 W-African 23.47
    3 SW-Asian 17.82
    4 Pygmy 4.36
    5 San 4.25
    6 Mediterranean 1.5
    7 Papuan 1.24

    Based on These results, would one say that I’m 68% S.C or 72%(excluding San, since luxmanda cave woman has 8% San)?

    Here are luxmanda cave person harappaworld results

    # Population Percent
    1 E-African 51.83
    2 SW-Asian 26.68
    3 San 8.67
    4 Mediterranean 4.67
    5 Caucasian 3.7
    6 Pygmy 2.56
    7 Papuan 0.95
    8 American 0.51
    9 SE-Asian 0.44

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    For those interested in the gedmatch results of someone with Hutu ancestry (Burundian), here you go:

    HarappaWorld

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W-African 58.88
    2 E-African 25.22
    3 Pygmy 8.09
    4 SW-Asian 3.42
    5 San 3.09

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 bantukenya_hgdp @ 5.510008
    2 luhya_hapmap @ 6.608508
    3 luhya_1000genomes @ 6.684699
    4 mada_henn2012 @ 12.967627

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% fang_henn2012 +50% hema_xing @ 2.220914


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% bantukenya_hgdp +25% igbo_henn2012 +25% sandawe_henn2011 @ 2.192441


    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 alur_xing + bambaran_xing + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.143514
    2 alur_xing + igbo_henn2012 + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.183887
    3 alur_xing + dogon_xing + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.323488
    4 alur_xing + brong_henn2012 + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.333383
    5 alur_xing + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 + yoruba_hgdp @ 1.524021
    6 alur_xing + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 + yoruba_hapmap @ 1.542063
    7 alur_xing + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 + yoruba_1000genomes @ 1.641398
    8 alur_xing + kaba_henn2012 + mandenka_hgdp + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.665692
    9 alur_xing + hausa_henn2012 + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.689383
    10 alur_xing + kongo_henn2012 + mandenka_hgdp + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.746336


    Eurogenes K13

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Sub-Saharan 68.43
    2 Northeast_African 24.91
    3 Red_Sea 3.34
    4 North_Atlantic 1.41


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Bantu_N.E. @ 4.320742
    2 Luhya @ 5.330217
    3 Mbuti_Pygmy @ 9.288252
    4 Biaka_Pygmy @ 11.415156

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bantu_N.E. +50% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.320742


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bantu_S.W. +25% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator +25% Yoruban @ 1.715545

    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 Bantu_S.W. + Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator + Mandenka + Mandenka @ 1.381107
    2 Bantu_S.E. + Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator + Mandenka + Yoruban @ 1.425004
    3 Bantu_S.E. + Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator + Mandenka + Yoruban @ 1.425004
    4 Bantu_N.E. + Bantu_S.E. + Maasai + Mandenka @ 1.508658
    5 Bantu_S.E. + Luhya + Maasai + Mandenka @ 1.543550
    6 Maasai + Mandenka + Mandenka + Mbuti_Pygmy @ 1.561810
    7 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator + Mandenka + Mandenka + Mandenka @ 1.601374
    8 Maasai + Mandenka + San + Yoruban @ 1.652266
    9 Maasai + Mandenka + San + Yoruban @ 1.652266
    10 Biaka_Pygmy + Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator + Yoruban + Yoruban @ 1.654311

    Eurogenes K36

    Central_African 4.70
    East_African 28.98
    Northeast_African 1.88
    Omotic 1.85
    Pygmy 10.26
    West_African 51.40

    Eurogenes Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer Admixture

    Anatolian Farmer 0.50
    Baltic Hunter Gatherer 0.06
    Middle Eastern Herder 2.32
    South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.67
    East African Pastoralist 26.89
    Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.18
    Mediterranean Farmer 0.31
    Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 10.64
    Bantu Farmer 58.44


    EthioHelix K10 Africa Only

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Africa 51.82
    2 Nilo-Saharan 11.94
    3 Omotic 10.05
    4 Biaka-Pygmy 7.25
    5 East-Africa2 6.81
    6 Mbuti-Pygmy 4.48
    7 Hadza 3.08
    8 East_Africa1 2.68
    9 North-Africa 1.88


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 luhya @ 9.812818
    2 bantukenya @ 10.435719
    3 hema @ 21.724831

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% hema +50% kongo @ 5.487862


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% hema +25% kongo +25% kongo @ 5.487862


    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 bamoun + bantukenya + hema + hema @ 4.596749
    2 bamoun + fang + hema + hema @ 4.933330
    3 bamoun + hema + hema + luhya @ 4.972227
    4 bantukenya + hema + hema + kongo @ 5.201344
    5 fang + hema + hema + kongo @ 5.383811
    6 EtO + bamoun + bantukenya + fang @ 5.399268
    7 EtO + bamoun + bamoun + luhya @ 5.431184
    8 bantukenya + hema + hema + igbo @ 5.462922
    9 EtO + bamoun + kongo + luhya @ 5.468565
    10 hema + hema + kongo + kongo @ 5.48786


    puntDNAL K8b Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 E_Benue_Congo 34.49
    2 W_Benue_Congo 31.00
    3 Nilo_Saharan 10.16
    4 Ubangian_Congo 7.19
    5 Western_Semitic 6.95
    6 Omotic 5.70
    7 Eastern_HG 4.51


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Kenyan_Bantu @ 8.613760
    2 SA_Pedi @ 19.687843


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% DRC_Hema +50% DRC_Kongo @ 7.645033


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kenyan_Bantu +25% Mali_Mandinka +25% Tanzania_Sandawe @ 6.594665


    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 Alur + DRC_Kongo + DRC_Kongo + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 5.352231
    2 Alur + Cameroon_Bamoun + DRC_Kongo + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 5.456654
    3 Alur + Cameroon_Fang + DRC_Kongo + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 5.589631
    4 Alur + Cameroon_Bamoun + Cameroon_Fang + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 5.623669

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karey View Post
    For those interested in the gedmatch results of someone with Hutu ancestry (Burundian), here you go:

    HarappaWorld

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W-African 58.88
    2 E-African 25.22
    3 Pygmy 8.09
    4 SW-Asian 3.42
    5 San 3.09

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 bantukenya_hgdp @ 5.510008
    2 luhya_hapmap @ 6.608508
    3 luhya_1000genomes @ 6.684699
    4 mada_henn2012 @ 12.967627

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% fang_henn2012 +50% hema_xing @ 2.220914


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% bantukenya_hgdp +25% igbo_henn2012 +25% sandawe_henn2011 @ 2.192441


    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 alur_xing + bambaran_xing + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.143514
    2 alur_xing + igbo_henn2012 + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.183887
    3 alur_xing + dogon_xing + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.323488
    4 alur_xing + brong_henn2012 + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.333383
    5 alur_xing + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 + yoruba_hgdp @ 1.524021
    6 alur_xing + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 + yoruba_hapmap @ 1.542063
    7 alur_xing + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 + yoruba_1000genomes @ 1.641398
    8 alur_xing + kaba_henn2012 + mandenka_hgdp + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.665692
    9 alur_xing + hausa_henn2012 + kaba_henn2012 + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.689383
    10 alur_xing + kongo_henn2012 + mandenka_hgdp + sandawe_henn2011 @ 1.746336


    Eurogenes K13

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Sub-Saharan 68.43
    2 Northeast_African 24.91
    3 Red_Sea 3.34
    4 North_Atlantic 1.41


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Bantu_N.E. @ 4.320742
    2 Luhya @ 5.330217
    3 Mbuti_Pygmy @ 9.288252
    4 Biaka_Pygmy @ 11.415156

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bantu_N.E. +50% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.320742


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bantu_S.W. +25% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator +25% Yoruban @ 1.715545

    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 Bantu_S.W. + Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator + Mandenka + Mandenka @ 1.381107
    2 Bantu_S.E. + Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator + Mandenka + Yoruban @ 1.425004
    3 Bantu_S.E. + Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator + Mandenka + Yoruban @ 1.425004
    4 Bantu_N.E. + Bantu_S.E. + Maasai + Mandenka @ 1.508658
    5 Bantu_S.E. + Luhya + Maasai + Mandenka @ 1.543550
    6 Maasai + Mandenka + Mandenka + Mbuti_Pygmy @ 1.561810
    7 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator + Mandenka + Mandenka + Mandenka @ 1.601374
    8 Maasai + Mandenka + San + Yoruban @ 1.652266
    9 Maasai + Mandenka + San + Yoruban @ 1.652266
    10 Biaka_Pygmy + Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator + Yoruban + Yoruban @ 1.654311

    Eurogenes K36

    Central_African 4.70
    East_African 28.98
    Northeast_African 1.88
    Omotic 1.85
    Pygmy 10.26
    West_African 51.40

    Eurogenes Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer Admixture

    Anatolian Farmer 0.50
    Baltic Hunter Gatherer 0.06
    Middle Eastern Herder 2.32
    South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.67
    East African Pastoralist 26.89
    Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.18
    Mediterranean Farmer 0.31
    Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 10.64
    Bantu Farmer 58.44


    EthioHelix K10 Africa Only

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Africa 51.82
    2 Nilo-Saharan 11.94
    3 Omotic 10.05
    4 Biaka-Pygmy 7.25
    5 East-Africa2 6.81
    6 Mbuti-Pygmy 4.48
    7 Hadza 3.08
    8 East_Africa1 2.68
    9 North-Africa 1.88


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 luhya @ 9.812818
    2 bantukenya @ 10.435719
    3 hema @ 21.724831

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% hema +50% kongo @ 5.487862


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% hema +25% kongo +25% kongo @ 5.487862


    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 bamoun + bantukenya + hema + hema @ 4.596749
    2 bamoun + fang + hema + hema @ 4.933330
    3 bamoun + hema + hema + luhya @ 4.972227
    4 bantukenya + hema + hema + kongo @ 5.201344
    5 fang + hema + hema + kongo @ 5.383811
    6 EtO + bamoun + bantukenya + fang @ 5.399268
    7 EtO + bamoun + bamoun + luhya @ 5.431184
    8 bantukenya + hema + hema + igbo @ 5.462922
    9 EtO + bamoun + kongo + luhya @ 5.468565
    10 hema + hema + kongo + kongo @ 5.48786


    puntDNAL K8b Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 E_Benue_Congo 34.49
    2 W_Benue_Congo 31.00
    3 Nilo_Saharan 10.16
    4 Ubangian_Congo 7.19
    5 Western_Semitic 6.95
    6 Omotic 5.70
    7 Eastern_HG 4.51


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Kenyan_Bantu @ 8.613760
    2 SA_Pedi @ 19.687843


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% DRC_Hema +50% DRC_Kongo @ 7.645033


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kenyan_Bantu +25% Mali_Mandinka +25% Tanzania_Sandawe @ 6.594665


    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 Alur + DRC_Kongo + DRC_Kongo + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 5.352231
    2 Alur + Cameroon_Bamoun + DRC_Kongo + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 5.456654
    3 Alur + Cameroon_Fang + DRC_Kongo + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 5.589631
    4 Alur + Cameroon_Bamoun + Cameroon_Fang + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 5.623669
    Do you know if this person is 100% Hutu (4 Hutu grandparents)? It looks like he’s about 25% South Cushitic. He also has a healthy dose of hunter-gatherer related ancestry.

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    Population
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    Caucasian 2.72 Pct
    NE-Euro -
    SE-Asian 0.41 Pct
    Siberian 0.17 Pct
    NE-Asian -
    Papuan 0.06 Pct
    American 0.14 Pct
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    Mediterranean 2.10 Pct
    SW-Asian 13.41 Pct
    San 2.19 Pct
    E-African 48.00 Pct
    Pygmy 5.94 Pct
    W-African 24.86 Pc
    Here are my cousin's( his mother is sister to my father) HarrappaWorld results.
    His paternal haplogroup is E-M54 and Maternal haplogroup is L4b2a2b.
    Does anybody have an idea of his mtDNa is from? Another interesting thing is his Caucasian %.
    Also four of my 23andMe cousins mtDNA are LOf. 2 have M1a. One has L5c. All those mentioned above are confirmed Rwandan/Burundian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tauromenion View Post
    That is true. I don't mean admixture so much as affinity. Cushitic East Africans all seem to have a genetic similarity to SW Asia and the Middle East even if not directly descended from them, which actually makes it possible that some of the SW Asian in Horn Africans is not directly Arabian either (though for many Ethiopians it does seem to be, which explains their Semitic languages).

    I want to see results of Tanzanians, Mozambicans, Zambians. Would they score more West African than East?
    Hey tauromenion, I have access to the gedmatch results of several Zimbabweans, a Zambian and a Tanzanian from the Gogo tribe who live close to the Sandawe. If you are interested I can post them...perhaps in a new thread...will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gihanga_Rwanda View Post
    Do you know if this person is 100% Hutu (4 Hutu grandparents)? It looks like he’s about 25% South Cushitic. He also has a healthy dose of hunter-gatherer related ancestry.
    I'm not sure to be honest. I can ask him and get back to you.

    By the way, which calculator did you use to determine your HG ancestry? Harrapaworld or K36?

    Also, is it reasonable to assume that your K13 results and the presence of East and West Mediterranean amounts suggest a more recent East Cushitic admixture as Awale mentions, and can this assumption be applied to other East African ethicities with significant, albeit lower "Mediterranean" amounts? For example this East African's K13 results:

    Eurogenes K13

    West_Med 1.44
    East_Med 3.86
    Red_Sea 9.09
    Northeast_African 38.97
    Sub-Saharan 46.64

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