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    Quote Originally Posted by Targum View Post
    Final version of K13 PCA plot


    K15 PCA plot

    I see I am not on these plots yet. Thank you for posting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    Thank you, Silesian. How did you find this plot that includes me? Ph2ter hasn't responded to me yet. Do you know how to make or add to pca plots? Thanks so much .

    "Germany" is about right for me. I'm mostly British and other NW European but I am 1/4 Czechoslovakian which would pull me towards Germany. I have a certified copy of my Great Grandmother's birth certificate/baptism record from Radosina, Slovakia. But there is no birth record for my Great Grandfather. He was my last ancestor to come to the USA, in 1906.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager View Post
    Let me know which you find more accurate.
    Silesian shows me in "Germany" on the K13 megaplot. I think that's accurate for me. I haven't seen a megaplot with me on it for the K15 yet.
    Last edited by ~Elizabeth~; 2018-08-09 at 23:56.

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    Anthrogenica's ph2ter added me to the K15 megaplot

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/vkc2m9qhxl...thK15.png?dl=0



    I'm in limbo, in a blank white area, close to "Rhine" and "Isles-North-Sea". I think both the K15 and the K13 are accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    Thank you, Silesian. How did you find this plot that includes me? Ph2ter hasn't responded to me yet. Do you know how to make or add to pca plots? Thanks so much .

    "Germany" is about right for me. I'm mostly British and other NW European but I am 1/4 Czechoslovakian which would pull me towards Germany. I have a certified copy of my Great Grandmother's birth certificate/baptism record from Radosina, Slovakia. But there is no birth record for my Great Grandfather. He was my last ancestor to come to the USA, in 1906.

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    Silesian shows me in "Germany" on the K13 megaplot. I think that's accurate for me. I haven't seen a megaplot with me on it for the K15 yet.
    I don't like K13 Polako says that it hits the sweet spot for 'most Europeans' but then again most Europeans are not NorthWest British Isles European. It has a category called "North-Atlantic" which I imagine is a mixture of Atlantic and North Sea (Anglo-Saxon and perhaps Norse) but you need to break that down for the British isles and perhaps for others like the Dutch too etc...

    K15 basically has me as SouthWest English with an FST of about 4 and if you throw in a bit of Dutch i.e. Dutch+SouthWest English the FST gets closer. The K15 has me plotting somewhat with Southern England while laterally (not horizontally) towards Danish. The closest genetic cousins of the British are Dutch, Danish and Norwegian (more Scotland and Ireland than England) so this all makes sense. K13 has me as mostly Irish with Dutch and there is a PuntDNAL modern type calculator that has me as Southern English with 2.0 and an MDLP one as Conrish (southWest English). The unnofficial K36 oracle has me as like mostly Southern English with a bit of Duch too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon1 View Post
    I don't like K13 Polako says that it hits the sweet spot for 'most Europeans' but then again most Europeans are not NorthWest British Isles European. It has a category called "North-Atlantic" which I imagine is a mixture of Atlantic and North Sea (Anglo-Saxon and perhaps Norse) but you need to break that down for the British isles and perhaps for others like the Dutch too etc...

    K15 basically has me as SouthWest English with an FST of about 4 and if you throw in a bit of Dutch i.e. Dutch+SouthWest English the FST gets closer. The K15 has me plotting somewhat with Southern England while laterally (not horizontally) towards Danish. The closest genetic cousins of the British are Dutch, Danish and Norwegian (more Scotland and Ireland than England) so this all makes sense. K13 has me as mostly Irish with Dutch and there is a PuntDNAL modern type calculator that has me as Southern English with 2.0 and an MDLP one as Cornish (southWest English). The unnofficial K36 oracle has me as like mostly Southern English with a bit of Duch too.
    Ooops, I meant 'not vertically' but it was early in the morning before I had my first cup of tea :





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    The Stanford University analysis of my raw DNA :










    GERMANS

    Racial Characteristics:

    Piggish-looking, sadomasochistic automatons whose only known forms of relaxation are
    swilling watery beer from vast tubs and singing the idiotically repetitive verses of their porcine
    folk tune-both of which amusements probably hark back to a prehuman state. Germans have
    never been successfully Christianized. Their language lacks any semblance of civilized speech.
    Their usual diet consists almost wholly of old cabbage and sections of animal intestines filled
    with blood and gore. Once every two or three decades, they set forth, lemming-like, on
    pointless military adventures during which great numbers of them are slaughtered-much to the
    improvement Of the world in general. Their lardy women have long, tangled masses of sticky
    hair under their arms, and the men shave the sides of their heads.

    Good Points:

    Kill a lot of French.



    Proper Form of Address:

    Kraut, Hun, Heiny, spike-head, sausage-breath.

    A German Joke of the War Years Illustrating Something of the German Character:

    If your sister married a Jew-that will make you sauerkraut.
    If your son married a Jew-that will make you bratwurst.
    If your mother married a Jew-that will make you soap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    Anthrogenica's ph2ter added me to the K15 megaplot

    I'm in limbo, in a blank white area, close to "Rhine" and "Isles-North-Sea". I think both the K15 and the K13 are accurate.
    Update**

    This plot puts you in south German cluster[within Northwest Euro], however you plot close to North-Germanic also.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xd6g2dteb...st_EU.png?dl=0



    My co-ordinates and father plot in Eastern Euro cluster.



    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ohb90i2tr...st_EU.png?dl=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    Update**

    This plot puts you in south German cluster[within Northwest Euro], however you plot close to North-Germanic also.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xd6g2dteb...st_EU.png?dl=0



    My co-ordinates and father plot in Eastern Euro cluster.



    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ohb90i2tr...st_EU.png?dl=0
    Thank you Silesian

    I found my name in the orange edge/corner.

    I saw your and your father's dots in Northeast Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    Thank you Silesian

    I found my name in the orange edge/corner.

    I saw your and your father's dots in Northeast Europe.

    K47 puts me in some center Euro no mans land



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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    K47 puts me in some center Euro no mans land


    Yes, I see your red cross in the white area between Czech in the yellow area and Slovak1 in the blue area.

    I don't see mine. I didn't know there was a K47. I haven't been to Anthrogenica in a while. I'll try to remember to check it out later today.

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