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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioterus View Post
    Ah, yesss, she tries, she tries. Those pesky slavs need to know their place!
    In the PIE Urheimat?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Wojewoda View Post
    In the PIE Urheimat?
    It was predicted by linguists long ago. For example Kortland:

    Starting from the linguistic evidence and trying to fit the pieces into a coherentwhole, we arrive at the following picture. The best candidate for the original IndoEuropean homeland is the territory of the Sredny Stog culture in the eastern Ukraine.

    The Indo-Europeans who remained after the migrations became speakers of Balto-Slavic.
    http://www.kortlandt.nl/publications/art111e.pdf

    3000 BC is the time period when most likely proto-Slavic originated according to Oleg Trubachyov who stresses uninterrupted origin of Slavic (which excludes mixing and development outside PIE homeland IMO):
    Currently, there is an objective tendency to deepen the dating of ancient Indo-European dialects. This also applies to Slavonic as one of the Indo-European dialects. However, the question now is not that the history of Slavonic may be measured by the scale of the II to III millenniums B.C. but that we can hardly date the ‘emergence’ or ‘separation’ of proto-Slavonic or proto-Slavonic dialects from Indo-European dialects because of the proper uninterrupted Indo-European origin of Slavonic.
    The latter belief is in line with the Meillet’s indication that Slavic is an Indo-European language of archaic type, vocabulary and grammar of which has not experienced shocks in contrast to, for example, the Greek (vocabulary)
    Trubačёv, O. N. 2003. Ėtnogenez i kul’tura drevnejščix slavjan: Lingvističeskie issledovanija.
    Moskva: “Nauka”.


    Looks like around 3000 BC Slavs started to expand from their homeland which was also PIE homeland.

    Now it seems to be confirmed by discovering R1a-M417 in Late Sredny Stog Dereivka culture, which overlaps with Slavic homeland, and by its links with CWC:

    http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/0...22991527525496

    Dereivka yellow circle:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jassa.org
    If you are wondering about all those dots in northern France by Calais, they may be of the Morini. Morin is obviously also a name ending in -in and refers to people who dwell by the sea. The name for sea, i.e., Latin mare is Indo-European but only in Celtic and Slavic is it expressed with an “o” – compare old Slavic morje or today’s morze or Welsh môr or Breton and Cornish mor with the Germanic mar, marsh or Latin mare.
    Morini on the map:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wojewoda View Post
    In the PIE Urheimat?





    That's her problem, if she insists in pushing us away from Oder-Vistula, she can't help but accept we're the direct PIE descended

    That or an out of Mars.
    and the IEEE Milestone for breaking the Enigma Code goes to... Polish Cipher Bureau 1932-39

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    “I go my own way. But you, you had never, until just now, looked behind you. You turned back today for the first time.”
    Geralt remained silent. Tired, he had nothing to say. “How... How will it happen?” he asked her at last, coldly and without emotion. “I will take you by the hand,” she replied, looking him straight in the eye. “I will take you by the hand and lead you across the meadow, through a cold and wet fog.” “And after? What is there beyond the fog?” “Nothing,” she replied, smiling. “After that, there is nothing.”
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