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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Hand View Post
    "What do you dislike about modern feminism?"
    The constant lies like "The Gender Wage Gap".

    The constant intellectual dishonesty e.g. complaining constantly about the lack of female CEOs in major corporations, lack of female politicians and other jobs that carry a lot "power" (social, economic, military etc). Yet they never complain about the lack of female sewage workers, pest controllers, builders, truck drivers, farm hands and other low end but highly necessary shit.

    There are other things that I'll get to later.
    Feminist will critique the lack of women in the Stem field for example, but never the lack of women in the construction field, or the lack of female car mechanics, and other labor intensive jobs. Honestly, I feel as though it's all a matter of their egos for these feminist groups. The jobs the jobs you and I mentioned are necessary for sustaining our societies and our modern way of life as a species. However, no body is ever going to be remembered in history of being a car mechanic, a sewage worker, a construction worker, a truck driver, etc. You more likely be remembered though, if you're a bio-engineer that creates a cure for AIDS, or develop a new self-sustainable resource to replace fossil fuels. You'll at least be deemed more valuable in our society if you any sort of high-tech engineer. In short, Feminist want more women to be remembered in history for doing "special" stuff in an effort to validate their own self-centered egos.

    The reason is that most women aren’t as interested in STEM related work as men are. Even the in more gender-equal liberal Scandinavian societies, it's shown that the demographic of women in STEM fields actually decreases as opportunities become more gender equal. Efforts in the U.S. to introduce more women into academic STEM field also reveal that most women lose interest in the field, and end up switching majors. In fact, women have a 2 to 1 advantage against men in the STEM work environment, as they're more likely to have an organization hire them over a male of equal credentials due to the need to fulfill a diversity quota. Despite all this, women still don't partake in STEM fields. Women just aren't as interested in STEM fields as men are, and all efforts to bring women into STEM reveal. However, since these STEM fields are deemed "special" in our society and have a predominate male demographic where women are under represented, feminists just want to chalk it all up to the patriarchy, sexism, and Matt Taylor's eccentric taste in fashion.

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    maybe women are less intelligent for STEM (at lease that what they say about blacks in that field)
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    There's so much baloney and myth making going on in this thread, all I can say is some of you need to go back to the sociocultural anthropology classes. Someone said Feminists "never" complain about the construction industry. I didn't believe that, so I did a quick web search. I found http://everydayfeminism.com/2013/04/...ruction-sites/

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    They are way too extreme and male hating for my taste. Women used to take care of their family and children rather than chasing careers that makes them lose interest in having children and etc.

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    The baiting, the divisiveness, the perpeutation of the victim mentality, how they silence dissenters, I coul go on; but the number one reason I dislike it, is because at its core, it's basically a neo-White Mans Burden - especially with how they treat minorities.

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    With regards to women having the right to vote, I don't believe in democracy to begin with. As far as workplace equality, personally I think if they do the same job as men they should be paid as much, but there's a few other factors like experience, that a business owner may want to take into consideration when dishing out pay. Also this would be certain jobs - I think it's obvious some jobs men are just meant to be better at in general (there's certainly strong women, and if they are strong enough then sure, but most women are not as strong as men).

    When hiring, it really should be about experience and qualification.

    Forth and Third wave Feminism are often confused. I think Third Wave was mostly about including Transgender people in the Feminist movement, as well as emphasizing women of color. First wave was more about the right to vote, second was more workplace rights and abortion rights I think? Btw I am fine with abortion. Fourth wave Feminism is I think the most retarded - this is the form that screams about 'micro aggressions' and such and is just generally crazy, by the looks of it.

    As far as Transgenders, it is hard to deny biological realities, if being Feminist is about being women, well Transgenders are not real women - at least, many have characteristics of real women but, it's difficult because then any man can be a woman. It depends how we define woman. Certainly Transgenders deserve their rights - but to be considered the exact same as women? That is different. I am Transgender basically, do I consider myself fully woman? No, not really, I am not dumb, I see biological realities. My reasoning is more to do with my personality, as I am quite feminine - it's just actually much easier to live as a woman - though that doesn't necessarily make me a woman, see?

    Then again, I do question how 'male' some of us are. Anyone can be Transgender, even very masculine people, for whatever reasoning they have. Though, with some of us more feminine ones, there could be something inherent, that gives us female-like characteristics genetically, like having a longer androgen receptor (hence worse testosterone signalling) which is common among male-to-female Transgenders. Yet still, we are not 100% female biologically - so it leads me to believe some of us, at least maybe the more feminine ones could be genetically intermediate between male and female, not really either one.

    In conclusion, if Feminism is meant for women, we probably shouldn't be too involved as we are our own thing, not technically women. Though, it's probably not so much about being for women but just this general idea of 'women being equal to men' (you do see a lot of male Feminists so). If that is the case, well, I am maybe half-Feminist. I think they are equal in some instances but in others no. You can never have full equality of the sexes - there are inherent differences, sorry.

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    I don't understand why some of them (the femen for example) protest naked.

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    I consider myself a feminist. For me feminism means the liberty for women to do anything they want and equal treatment before the law. I support preventive steps to ensure that women with children have a decent life, no matter what. I understand, that gender segregation is something, which is often not avoidable, although I wish there was a level playing field for all genders. And I think at this point I collide with those feminazis, who are just too dumb to understand that not everything can be equalized. If a gay woman wants to adopt a baby, how on earth wouldn't this affect the mentality of the child? I say a clear no to this type of emancipationism.

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    The idea that women somehow aren't complete or haven't fulfilled their full potential unless they have a career and that being wives and mother's just isn't enough, they are missinng out on something.

    Being offended with lingerie brands like VS for "objectifying women" and "portraying unrealistic/unhealthy bodies". Umm... those models get payed very well and I'm sure they're not complaining. Stop making them into victims. Also just because they don't look like the average female does not mean their bodies are any less real or healthy. Like in some places it's become illegal to employ "underweight" models (BMI below 18.5) but including overweight ones is encouraged.
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    Appian wrote they were a very warlike people. According to him, The Bracari women warriors fought defending their town "never turning, never never showing their backs, or uttering a cry", preferring death to captivity."
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