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    Default Origin of Paternal Haplogroup J-F4100?

    Hello, I recieved my Nat Geo 2.0 results like 2 days ago or so and I saw that my ydna was J-F4100, however when I looked at the map for the migration of my ancient paternal ancestor, I saw that my ydna was specifically L212 which is of the J2a branch. I do know that me and ghostENVY were right all along, since I was mostly negative for all J2b subclades but not for J2a, and I could be from the J2a1 or J2a1b lineage. ghostENVY wasnt so sure.

    My haplogroups:

    http://m.imgur.com/a/L8x0X

    Here is a map of the subclade:

    http://m.imgur.com/QBkekXW

    Description of the subclade:

    http://m.imgur.com/a/BmHo9

    Does anyone have some info about J-F4100?/J2a?
    Last edited by Shaquille; 2016-09-16 at 12:45.
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    I also transfered my results to FTDNA, I can not see any matches because I didnt bought a kit, however they classified my ydna as J-CTS8264. But Nat Geo 2.0 seemed to be more accurate regarding my haplogroups.
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    Congratulations,i think, i am not an expert, it is originate from Northern Fertile Crescent then it is spread to europe with neolithic expansion and later during the Copper and Bronze ages it is common also among jews

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abderrahman View Post
    Congratulations,i think, i am not an expert, it is originate from Northern Fertile Crescent then it is spread to europe with neolithic expansion and later during the Copper and Bronze ages it is common also among jews
    Ah yes, but thats were J2 originated right? But my subclade did it also originated in the Fertile Crescent? What countries are 'northern fertile crescent'?. I know that its common amongst Jews but I do not have Jewish ancestry according to 23andme, Nat Geo 2.0 and Douglas Mcdonald. But I am going to make a seprerate thread about my results i think.
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    L212 and F4100 are M410 equivalents if I'm not mistaken... What a waste of money


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    Those Bronze Age samples are just red herrings to distract you from the actual arrivals of populations with Semitic ancestry. Don’t take the bait by focusing on the wrong samples, lol. He is passing off Bronze Age Levantines with no evidence of strong predynastic input, as “Semites“. This way, he can flip it around and say Proto-Semitic speakers and predynastics were more or less identical to the Bronze Age Levantines sampled so far.
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    Wonder what the resident Proto-Semite has to say about this. I thought unmixed Egyptians were supposed to be Abusir with less/zero Chl?

    In your view, does this prove you wrong, or is it just a coincidence () that M1 is absent in one of the three subsamples from Abusir, and rare overall?

    And don’t change your signature now, please. I’m looking forward to you looking more and more incompetent as more aDNA is published. Wish there was a way to speed this up. But the extra wait and seeing you with your pants down every day, kinda has its own appeal, too.

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    Well, J2a specifically seems to be more prevalent in the Middle East as far as I know, while J2b is more common in India and Greece/Italy. How much did you pay for this test, since you only got such a shallow SNP? Or is that your terminal SNP?

    Specifically though, concerning J-F4100, I have no idea. Join the J-M172 project on FtDNA and check the origins of those carrying the same haplogroup. I'm J-P279, along with 4 other dudes - really gives close to no information since there are so few, as the TMRCA is about 5800 ybp.

    Generally, J-M172 seems to be not so well-known, compared to e.g. R1b or I1, etc. where many haplogroups are narrowed down to 1000 ybp.
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