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    So I figured, since @randomguy1235 is pro-Molyneux and @Attila József is anti-Molyneux, there's potential for discussion here. First, let's start with the basics:

    Stefan Basil Molyneux (/stɛˈfæn ˈmɑːlɪnjuː/; born September 24, 1966) is an Irish-born Canadian blogger. Molyneux writes on topics including anarcho-capitalism, atheism, secular ethics, right-libertarianism, cryptocurrencies, and familial relationships. He is a self-published author and podcaster, and has spoken at libertarian conferences. Molyneux formerly worked in the software industry.
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    I'm personally fairly neutral on Molyneux; I'm hardly a fan, but I agree on some of the stuff he says (like when he defends Trump or something like that, and even then I don't agree on everything). It seems to me however, that Molyneux has attained a cult following among the autist-libertarians (who believe cutting taxes is the solution to just about every problem in society; Jeb Bush is like a living caricuature of this school of thought), and he has also been throwing some "right-wing" stuff into the mix in his podcasts and YouTube clips, like race and IQ, anti-immigration rhetoric and so on. I haven't watched that many of his clips, but I remember one in particular, he was critical of socialism, and said he used to be a socialist, but changed ideology somewhere along the way. I can't remember why he changed his mind on socialism, but it was probably something involving taxes.

    Anyway, I figured, because of the growing influence of Stephan Molyneux on the internet, and since he deals with similar topics we discuss here, a thread about him is warranted, in which we dissect his views and ideology. Have you watched anything by Stephan Molyneux? Has he changed your mind on something?

    And keep it serious please, as in no insults/trolling or anything like that. Thanks.
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    Poland is a misunderstanding. It is a country which lies on the frontier between western and slavic world, and which combines elements of both.
    In fact, they are not even the Europeans in strict sense, meaning European as in bearing the responsibility and understanding of European interests. Poland has always been an subordinate country, on one side sucking German dick, on the other side -- Russian one, some kind of "novice" europeans, who are full of inferiority complexes, hysteria and obsessity neuroses. This is also true for all Baltic countries

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    He is an adviser for poor beta-males who call to him and tell him and his beta-male audience about their beta-male problems.

    Classic example. I mean look at the clip, it is over 50 minutes long.


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    I must say though that in a clip with an Indian datingcoach Stefan did mention the IQ of India and he said that this particular guy who called him obviously had a higher IQ than the Indian mean. That is quite impressive for an immigration-critic, they tend to be race-deniers like Pat Condall.
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    ^^ Not even five minutes pass before he brings up taxes. The world revolves around taxes for these people.
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    Poland is a misunderstanding. It is a country which lies on the frontier between western and slavic world, and which combines elements of both.
    In fact, they are not even the Europeans in strict sense, meaning European as in bearing the responsibility and understanding of European interests. Poland has always been an subordinate country, on one side sucking German dick, on the other side -- Russian one, some kind of "novice" europeans, who are full of inferiority complexes, hysteria and obsessity neuroses. This is also true for all Baltic countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janos View Post
    He is an adviser for poor beta-males who call to him and tell him and his beta-male audience about their beta-male problems.

    Classic example. I mean look at the clip, it is over 50 minutes long.
    I must say though that in a clip with an Indian datingcoach Stefan did mention the IQ of India and he said that this particular guy who called him obviously had a higher IQ than the Indian mean. That is quite impressive for an immigration-critic, they tend to be race-deniers like Pat Condall.
    No. He actually advised the Indian PUA to not breed with white women, since else he would drag down the average European IQ with his low IQ Indian genes. And he said it quite bluntly to him.

    As Elias already partly pointed out(e.g. taxes), Stefan always reduces a conversation to certain core interests of his(taxes/IQ etc. etc.) to explain highly complicated issues.

    This is quite an autistic, close-minded, singular approach trying to solve a problem when you can only talk about the 3 or 4 things which interest you. This is my main issue with him. He can't think of an holistic approach to certain problems presented to him. He misses the big picture and can't think outside the box.

    Also like a true beta cuck, he doesn't really understand female nature and has a lot of misconceptions regarding the dating/sexual market place. I nearly spitted my coffee out when he once claimed a 50 year old man has higher sexual worth than a 20 year old guy. Then let's explain me why nearly all men on catch a predator are +40 years old?
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    He is a reasonable man, no doubt intelligent, and offers a lot of good points. I've mostly listened to his Trump videos, but in any case he seems to be too dogmatic for me. It's actually a big turn-off as I'm seeking intellectually stimulating content. My experience of his other videos is that he seems to obsess a bit over race and IQ in a black-and-white kind of manner which can be annoying as they're complex subjects (at least the IQ part).

    He seems to have a cult status surrounding him and some serious amount of circle-jerking followers. All in all I'd rather watch something else unless it's some specific video.
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    I am not a fan of Molyneux in that I follow him. I have watched a few of his videos and like what he has being saying in those.

    I love watching these "phone-in"-shows of his, when the caller just talks and talks and you see Mr.Molyneux, quietly, scratch his chin for 20 minutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    I haven't watched that many of his clips, but I remember one in particular, he was critical of socialism, and said he used to be a socialist, but changed ideology somewhere along the way. I can't remember why he changed his mind on socialism, but it was probably something involving taxes.
    Why would not he be critical of Socialism? Socialism always ends up in famine, misery, poverty and cannibalism. So it is just common sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    ^^ Not even five minutes pass before he brings up taxes. The world revolves around taxes for these people.
    That would be the Statist world. The Libertarian world certainly does not evolve around taxes because there are no taxes. The only thing the Libertarian world evolves around is the sun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamerlane View Post
    Why would not he be critical of Socialism?
    Yeah, why not?

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    Socialism always ends up in famine, misery, poverty and cannibalism. So it is just common sense.
    I'm not a socialist, and I'm not a capitalist either. I think both these ideologies are outdated and belong on the ash heap of history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tamerlane View Post
    That would be the Statist world. The Libertarian world certainly does not evolve around taxes because there are no taxes. The only thing the Libertarian world evolves around is the sun.
    The problem here with people who want to talk about taxes all day (whether they're for or against taxes, it's all the same), is that people who argue about taxes all day, don't have real problems. It's mostly a Western thing (or developed nations' problem so to say, as opposed to developing nations, where they still have real problems, and lots of them too).

    Personally, I think taxes should be as low as possible, but if there's a need for it (social, environmental or otherwise), taxes should be increased to meet the requirements, and taxes should be used as efficiently as possible.

    Anyway, taxation is theft rhetoric aside, I think what Molyneux is really trying to get at, is that he's trying to cut funding for Muslim immigrants, so it's not really high taxes he's opposed to, more like, that he doesn't want to provide support for non-white immigration in Europe and America. It's not like it makes a huge difference for his personal bottom line at the end of the day, if he has to pay a few hundred bucks more in taxes. His personal income I assume isn't bad.
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    He's cool, I've listened long ago when he was more about atheism and secularism and religion. I guess he still is but a lot of other stuff as well. I like the shows he has done with Bill Whittle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    Anyway, taxation is theft rhetoric aside, I think what Molyneux is really trying to get at, is that he's trying to cut funding for Muslim immigrants, so it's not really high taxes he's opposed to, more like, that he doesn't want to provide support for non-white immigration in Europe and America. It's not like it makes a huge difference for his personal bottom line at the end of the day, if he has to pay a few hundred bucks more in taxes. His personal income I assume isn't bad.
    You are half way right.

    He is against high taxation and the 'welfare' state since according to him, it enables 'low IQ' people(what he really means 'non-whites' like MENA, Hispanic and SSA descendant people living in the USA) to reproduce in high numbers on the costs of the tax payer.

    He thinks people who can't afford it (due to lower 'IQs') will suddenly stop breeding when there won't be any welfare left. And people with 'higher IQs' will slowly out breed the 'lower IQ's segments of society, since they can afford having children due to not being dependent on financial assistance by the government. It is basically a subtle way of using economics in favor of certain racial-eugenic aims.

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