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    Here's a transcript of Trump's January 8th, 2019 speech as noted here:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/u...ranscript.html

    PRESIDENT TRUMP: My fellow Americans, tonight I’m speaking

    to you because there is a growing humanitarian and security

    crisis at our southern border.

    Every day, Customs and Border Protection agents encounter

    thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our

    country. We are out of space to hold them, and we have no

    way to promptly return them back home to their country.

    America proudly welcomes millions of lawful immigrants who

    enrich our society and contribute to our nation, but all

    Americans are hurt by uncontrolled illegal migration.

    It strains public resources and drives down jobs and wages.

    Among those hardest hit are African-Americans and Hispanic

    -Americans. Our southern border is a pipeline for vast

    quantities of illegal drugs including meth, heroin,

    cocaine, and fentanyl. Every week, 300 of our citizens are

    killed by heroin alone. Ninety percent of which floods

    across from our southern border. More Americans will die

    from drugs this year than were killed in the entire Vietnam

    War.

    In the last two years, ICE officers made 266,000 arrests of

    aliens with criminal records including those charged or

    convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, and 4,000

    violent killings. Over the years, thousands of Americans

    have been brutally killed by those who illegally entered

    our country and thousands more lives will be lost if we

    don’t act right now.

    This is a humanitarian crisis. A crisis of the heart, and a

    crisis of the soul. Last month, 20,000 migrant children

    were illegally brought into the United States, a dramatic

    increase. These children are used as human pawns by vicious

    coyotes and ruthless gangs. One in three women are sexually

    assaulted on the dangerous trek up through Mexico. Women

    and children are the biggest victims, by far, of our broken

    system.

    This is the tragic reality of illegal immigration on our

    southern border. This is the cycle of human suffering that

    I am determined to end. My administration has presented

    congress with a detailed proposal to secure the border and

    stop the criminal gangs, drug smugglers, and human

    traffickers. It’s a tremendous problem.

    Our proposal was developed by law enforcement professionals

    and border agents at the Department of Homeland Security.

    These are the resources they have requested to properly

    perform their mission and keep America safe. In fact, safer

    than ever before.

    The proposal from homeland security includes cutting edge

    technology for detecting drugs, weapons, illegal contraband

    and many other things. We have requested more agents,

    immigration judges to process the sharp rise of unlawful

    migration fueled by our very strong economy.

    Our plan also contains an urgent request for humanitarian

    assistance and medical support. Furthermore, we have asked

    congress to close border security loopholes so that illegal

    immigrant children can be safely and humanely returned back

    home.

    Finally, as part of an overall approach to border security,

    law enforcement professionals have requested $5.7 billion

    for a physical barrier. At the request of Democrats it will

    be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall. This

    barrier is absolutely critical to border security. It’s

    also what our professionals at the border want and need.

    This is just common sense.

    The border wall would very quickly pay for itself. The cost

    of illegal drugs exceeds $500 billion a year. Vastly more

    than the $5.7 billion we have requested from congress. The

    wall will also be paid for indirectly by the great new

    trade deal we have made with Mexico.

    Senator Chuck Schumer, who you will be hearing from later

    tonight, has repeatedly supported a physical barrier in the

    past along with many other Democrats. They changed their

    mind only after I was elected president.

    Democrats in congress have refused to acknowledge the

    crisis and they have refused to provide our brave border

    agents with the tools they desperately need to protect our

    families and our nation.

    A spotlight on the people reshaping our politics. A

    conversation with voters across the country. And a guiding

    hand through the endless news cycle, telling you what you

    really need to know.

    The federal government remains shut down for one reason,

    and one reason only, because Democrats will not fund border

    security. My administration is doing everything in our

    power to help those impacted by the situation, but the only

    solution is for Democrats to pass a spending bill that

    defends our borders and reopens the government.

    This situation could be solved in a 45 minute meeting. I

    have invited congressional leadership to the white house

    tomorrow to get this done. Hopefully we can rise above

    partisan politics in order to support national security.

    Some have suggested a barrier is immoral. Then why do

    wealthy politicians build walls, fences, and gates around

    their homes? They don’t build walls because they hate the

    people on the outside but because they love the people on

    the inside. The only thing that is immoral is the

    politicians to do nothing and continue to allow more

    innocent people to be so horribly victimized.

    America’s heart broke the day after Christmas when a young

    police officer in California was savagely murdered in cold

    blood by an illegal alien, just came across the border. The

    life of an American hero was stolen by someone who had no

    right to be in our country. Day after day, precious lives

    are cut short by those who have violated our borders.

    In California, an air force veteran was raped, murdered,

    and beaten to death with a hammer by an illegal alien with

    a long criminal history. In Georgia, an illegal alien was

    recently charged with murder for killing, beheading, and

    dismembering his neighbor. In Maryland, MS-13 gang members

    who arrived in the United States as unaccompanied minors

    were arrested and charged last year after viciously

    stabbing and beating a 16-year-old girl.

    Over the last several years I have met with dozens of

    families whose loved ones were stolen by illegal

    immigration. I have held the hands of the weeping mothers

    and embraced the grief stricken fathers. So sad, so

    terrible. I will never forget the pain in their eyes, the

    tremble in their voices, and the sadness gripping their

    souls. How much more American blood must we shed before

    congress does its job?

    To those who refuse to compromise in the name of border

    security, I would ask, imagine if it was your child, your

    husband, or your wife whose life was so cruelly shattered

    and totally broken. To every member of congress: pass a

    bill that ends this crisis. To every citizen, call

    congress, and tell them to finally, after all of these

    decades, secure our border.

    This is a choice between right and wrong, justice and

    injustice. This is about whether we fulfill our sacred duty

    to the American citizens we serve. When I took the oath of

    office, I swore to protect our country and that is what I

    will always do so help me god.

    Thank you and good night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    Here's a transcript of Trump's January 8th, 2019 speech as noted here:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/u...ranscript.html




    Video of the speech:
    Same thing he's been saying for months. Nancy has made it clear. He's not getting his damn useless wall unless Mexico pays for it. Why didn't he get House support from Paul Ryan when the GOP was in control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWF View Post
    Same thing he's been saying for months. Nancy has made it clear. He's not getting his damn useless wall unless Mexico pays for it. Why didn't he get House support from Paul Ryan when the GOP was in control?

    I know. Nancy is not budging.

    Paul Ryan is an anti-Trump RINO. I think Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell were stringing President Trump along with a promise of wall funding after the midterms. I really want a border wall. I hope President Trump declares a national emergency and gets the military to build it. I just don't know when or if he'll do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    I know. Nancy is not budging.

    Paul Ryan is an anti-Trump RINO. I think Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell were stringing President Trump along with a promise of wall funding after the midterms. I really want a border wall. I hope President Trump declares a national emergency and gets the military to build it. I just don't know when or if he'll do it.
    I certainly support border security but a 'Trump wall monument' as Trump promised as a campaign slogan is an irresponsible waste of taxpayer money. If Trump can see past his ego to just admit that the same secure steel/iron fencing we've always used will work just fine in areas where needed, he can probably get somewhere. The bulk of funding needs to go to hiring border agents/staff and to upgrade technology at border points.

    I predict that Trump's attempt to declare a false emergency to get around the House will die a humiliating death in the Courts about as quickly as he announces it.

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    Thanks to the government shutdown in the US, the government of my Canadian province, Nova Scotia, may step in and pay the salaries of US border agents at the ferry terminal between Nova Scotia and Maine.

    Well, as a taxpayer, that’s nice of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    Thanks to the government shutdown in the US, the government of my Canadian province, Nova Scotia, may step in and pay the salaries of US border agents at the ferry terminal between Nova Scotia and Maine.

    Well, as a taxpayer, that’s nice of me.
    In moments like these, don't you wish the Trump wall was built and finished?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    In moments like these, don't you wish the Trump wall was built and finished?
    Considering most illegal immigrants in the US are visa overstays, I think the wall would be a waste of time and US taxpayer money, but I am not a US taxpayer, so sure, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    Considering most illegal immigrants in the US are visa overstays, I think the wall would be a waste of time and US taxpayer money, but I am not a US taxpayer, so sure, I guess.
    Most or half? In any case, my point was, the more the Dems are working against Trump through congress, the more Canada will suffer also. That's the thing, America is so powerful and influential that if things go bad for America, the rest of the world (including Sweden) will suffer in one way or the other. This doesn't mean all other countries in the world should let the US government do exactly whatever it wants (for example, environmental problems, which concerns us all), but if white Americans want a solid border wall, let them have it, and I don't see why the Dems are so opposed to it if it's that inefficient? I mean if "illegal immigrants" (code word for non-white immigrants) are going to get in anyway, then opposing the Trump wall is just filibustering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWF View Post
    I certainly support border security but a 'Trump wall monument' as Trump promised as a campaign slogan is an irresponsible waste of taxpayer money.
    This. But the Left IMO is supposed to be the adults in the room. Its 5 Billion dollars. Its a total waste of money. But what is 5 billion in face of a Military budget of 750 Billion in addition to another Trillion in Black Ops.? Its small beans. Its like my wife complaining about my 5 Dollar Latte from Starbucks when she just left the mall with a 700 purse to add to a collection of handbags.

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    - The Shut down has been going on for over 20 days. The Obama administration shutdown for 16 days had a COST of 2.5 Billion. By the time we reach the end of the month the Shutdown crosses the point where it costs more than the wall.

    The adults in the room shouldn't let it go this far. Administratively speaking, Trump is in his "Terrible Twos". Responsible adults should act accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    Most or half? In any case, my point was, the more the Dems are working against Trump through congress, the more Canada will suffer also. That's the thing, America is so powerful and influential that if things go bad for America, the rest of the world (including Sweden) will suffer in one way or the other. This doesn't mean all other countries in the world should let the US government do exactly whatever it wants (for example, environmental problems, which concerns us all), but if white Americans want a solid border wall, let them have it, and I don't see why the Dems are so opposed to it if it's that inefficient? I mean if "illegal immigrants" (code word for non-white immigrants) are going to get in anyway, then opposing the Trump wall is just filibustering.
    If they want a wall then fine, but it would be a waste of money. But we’re not “suffering”. It’s just one province, and a small, not very busy, border crossing. That ferry terminal is in the heart of Acadian country, hospitality and helping people out is big in our culture. If you need food, we’ll feed you. If you need shelter, we’ll give you shelter. If you need protection, we’ll protect you. That’s just the way we are. Wouldn’t surprise me if Acadian Affairs lobbied for this.

    I do feel bad for those agents. They have to be on that boat, a high speed ferry travelling in the North Atlantic. We jokingly call it the “Vomit Comet” for a reason.

    And thanks to legal cannabis and past investments in renewable energy like solar, wind, and tidal power, which pretty much paid for themselves, Nova Scotia has a budget surplus of almost $1 billion. We can afford it.
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