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    It doesn't show Assyrians in the Middle East, so it's not a good map
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    And indigenous North Africans are white (or at least not black like the photo shows).

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    It doesn't show Assyrians in the Middle East, so it's not a good map
    Assyrians are not "indigenous people". They are a mix of native Northmesopotamians, Indo-European invaders and Semites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangotree View Post
    Assyrians are not "indigenous people". They are a mix of native Northmesopotamians, Indo-European invaders and Semites.
    Semites are indigenous to north Mesopotamia (really only Assyrian Semites though, and I guess Iraqi/Iranian Jews can also be included in that category as they've had a demographic presence in north Mesopotamia since biblical times). There's really no significant Indo-European ancestry among Assyrians. Like maybe 2% or something, so I don't think it counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    Semites are indigenous to north Mesopotamia (really only Assyrian Semites though, and I guess Iraqi/Iranian Jews can also be included in that category as they've had a demographic presence in north Mesopotamia since biblical times). There's really no significant Indo-European ancestry among Assyrians. Like maybe 2% or something, so I don't think it counts.
    Yes Semites are indigenous to North Mesopotamia. There are a few Assyrians who have typical Indo-European paternal haplogroups (for example the L21 clade of R1b) and therefore I said that.
    N=110 08/08/13
    25.5% R1b (mostly M269)
    18.2% J1
    16.4% T
    12.7% J2
    8.2% E1b1b1
    8.2% G
    4.5% R2a
    2.7% Q1b
    1.8% R1a
    0.9% F
    0.9% L

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangotree View Post
    Yes Semites are indigenous to North Mesopotamia. There are a few Assyrians who have typical Indo-European paternal haplogroups (for example the L21 clade of R1b) and therefore I said that.
    N=110 08/08/13
    25.5% R1b (mostly M269)
    18.2% J1
    16.4% T
    12.7% J2
    8.2% E1b1b1
    8.2% G
    4.5% R2a
    2.7% Q1b
    1.8% R1a
    0.9% F
    0.9% L
    None of these are Indo-European except R1a, R1b and Q1b. The rest, various Indo-European speakers in all likelihood got it from Middle Eastern farmers when the original ANE tribe migrated to eastern Europe.

    And anyway, haplogroups don't really matter. Our autosomal DNA shows very little northern European admixture, only Iraqi Jews have less than us, so no, we're not a mix of Indo-Europeans, we're indigenous Semites of northern Mesopotamia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tauromenion View Post
    And indigenous North Africans are white (or at least not black like the photo shows).
    While I understand why you are trying to say, remeber how long ago North Africa was populated and what type of continuity (or not) we are talking about. "White People" depending on how you are going to define them are not that old in Africa, not even the Middle East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangotree View Post
    Yes Semites are indigenous to North Mesopotamia. There are a few Assyrians who have typical Indo-European paternal haplogroups (for example the L21 clade of R1b) and therefore I said that.
    N=110 08/08/13
    25.5% R1b (mostly M269)
    18.2% J1
    16.4% T
    12.7% J2
    8.2% E1b1b1
    8.2% G
    4.5% R2a
    2.7% Q1b
    1.8% R1a
    0.9% F
    0.9% L
    I have yet to see Assyrians who carry R1b-L21, let alone branches of R1b-L51.


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    Those Bronze Age samples are just red herrings to distract you from the actual arrivals of populations with Semitic ancestry. Don’t take the bait by focusing on the wrong samples, lol. He is passing off Bronze Age Levantines with no evidence of strong predynastic input, as “Semites“. This way, he can flip it around and say Proto-Semitic speakers and predynastics were more or less identical to the Bronze Age Levantines sampled so far.
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    Wonder what the resident Proto-Semite has to say about this. I thought unmixed Egyptians were supposed to be Abusir with less/zero Chl?

    In your view, does this prove you wrong, or is it just a coincidence () that M1 is absent in one of the three subsamples from Abusir, and rare overall?

    And don’t change your signature now, please. I’m looking forward to you looking more and more incompetent as more aDNA is published. Wish there was a way to speed this up. But the extra wait and seeing you with your pants down every day, kinda has its own appeal, too.

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    Lets not confuse "Indigenous" with "Native". They are not the same thing. Most of us here have a grasp and deep evolutionary history and human migration. I would make the argument that MOST "Indigenous" people around the globe not longer really exist and have instead been bred out of existence by folks we NOW recognize as "Native" to their respective region.. ie: Cushitics are not "Indigenous" to the Horn of Africa....they are Native to the Horn of Africa.

    That may piss some folks of but o well, i think they know what I am talking about. Semantics? Maybe.

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