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    New thread for everyone interested in ancestral genetics. In need of ancient exotic groups
    Y-DNA J1-Z18271-mtDNA- J1c5 and Boii, Poles=to input genetic values; all are welcome! No need to be shy.
    http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sho...stral-Identity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioterus View Post
    I am also wondering about the similarity of words bać się (to be afraid) and bić się (to fight).

    If one trembles before a battle (boi się) is he preparing for a fight (bije się)? Adrenaline rush and somatics into semantics?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wojewoda View Post
    We have "bojaźń" (fear, fright) and "bój"(fight)/"bojownik" (fighter), so there might be a link.
    By the way could it be that at that time Slavs were very weak - "słabi"? "Słabi"<->Slavi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wojewoda View Post
    By the way could it be that at that time Slavs were very weak - "słabi"? "Słabi"<->Slavi?
    Nah, suavni (famous) not suabi (weak)
    and the IEEE Milestone for breaking the Enigma Code goes to... Polish Cipher Bureau 1932-39

    “We know each other,” he agreed. “They say that you follow in my steps.”
    “I go my own way. But you, you had never, until just now, looked behind you. You turned back today for the first time.”
    Geralt remained silent. Tired, he had nothing to say. “How... How will it happen?” he asked her at last, coldly and without emotion. “I will take you by the hand,” she replied, looking him straight in the eye. “I will take you by the hand and lead you across the meadow, through a cold and wet fog.” “And after? What is there beyond the fog?” “Nothing,” she replied, smiling. “After that, there is nothing.”
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    Świat się zmienia, słońce zachodzi, a wódka się kończy [The world is changing, sun is setting and we're running out of Vodka.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    New thread for everyone interested in ancestral genetics. In need of ancient exotic groups
    Y-DNA J1-Z18271-mtDNA- J1c5 and Boii, Poles=to input genetic values; all are welcome! No need to be shy.
    http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sho...stral-Identity
    Consider it done


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    Those Bronze Age samples are just red herrings to distract you from the actual arrivals of populations with Semitic ancestry. Don’t take the bait by focusing on the wrong samples, lol. He is passing off Bronze Age Levantines with no evidence of strong predynastic input, as “Semites“. This way, he can flip it around and say Proto-Semitic speakers and predynastics were more or less identical to the Bronze Age Levantines sampled so far.
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    @Semitic Duwa

    Wonder what the resident Proto-Semite has to say about this. I thought unmixed Egyptians were supposed to be Abusir with less/zero Chl?

    In your view, does this prove you wrong, or is it just a coincidence () that M1 is absent in one of the three subsamples from Abusir, and rare overall?

    And don’t change your signature now, please. I’m looking forward to you looking more and more incompetent as more aDNA is published. Wish there was a way to speed this up. But the extra wait and seeing you with your pants down every day, kinda has its own appeal, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semitic Duwa View Post
    Consider it done
    There is some speculation that Polish Piast founding dynasty were R1b-maybe even R-L617?
    Pretty amazing all the red R1a in the center of Europe-

    Is this account accurate history of Casimir III[reforms, laws, and impotent inquisition] ? Also his love for a beautiful girl, named Esther (Esterka), a tailor's daughter of Opoczno? Who bore him two sons Niemerz and Pelka-?
    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/ar...-iii-the-great

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    My R1b is widely spread it can be found all the way down in Iberia and Switzerland but my main concern is the British isles look for the part of the pie chart that says z253 :


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    American of Scots-Irish or Ulster Ancestry :

    'I am a Scotsman', Sir Walter Scott once famously wrote, ' therefore I had to fight my way into the world'.

    "Of all the small nations of this earth, perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind.” --Winston Churchill(England)

    "We look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation.” --Voltaire(France)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    There is some speculation that Polish Piast founding dynasty were R1b-maybe even R-L617?
    Where did you hear such a "hideous" rumours? We all know Piasts had to be aR1an Normans

    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    Is this account accurate history of Casimir III[reforms, laws, and impotent inquisition] ? Also his love for a beautiful girl, named Esther (Esterka), a tailor's daughter of Opoczno? Who bore him two sons Niemerz and Pelka-?
    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/ar...-iii-the-great
    Yep, go for this crash course on Polish history if you will -> Poland: A History

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    and the IEEE Milestone for breaking the Enigma Code goes to... Polish Cipher Bureau 1932-39

    “We know each other,” he agreed. “They say that you follow in my steps.”
    “I go my own way. But you, you had never, until just now, looked behind you. You turned back today for the first time.”
    Geralt remained silent. Tired, he had nothing to say. “How... How will it happen?” he asked her at last, coldly and without emotion. “I will take you by the hand,” she replied, looking him straight in the eye. “I will take you by the hand and lead you across the meadow, through a cold and wet fog.” “And after? What is there beyond the fog?” “Nothing,” she replied, smiling. “After that, there is nothing.”
    ― Andrzej Sapkowski
    Świat się zmienia, słońce zachodzi, a wódka się kończy [The world is changing, sun is setting and we're running out of Vodka.]
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    I just ordered FGC14951 and M225 (FGC31068) at YSEQ:

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L617/

    https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=10773

    https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=13267

    These are respectively British and Iberian branches of L617.

    So if I turn out negative for these two, I'm probably L617*:

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L617*/

    If I turn out to be positive for FGC14951, then I'm probably part-Scottish. Or... I'm one of those FGC14951 Celts (?) who stayed behind when others moved to colonize Britain.

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