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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaska View Post
    ...It seems probable that there truly lived a linguistically East-Scandinavian N1c-man in present-day Sweden, who had offspring among the early rulers of Rus' state.
    This is indeed a major blow to Ida's rensvenskhet. A fingolian viking, sigh. Grynda, I just couldn't be more sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huckleberry Finn View Post
    This is indeed a major blow to Ida's rensvenskhet. A fingolian viking, sigh. Grynda, I just couldn't be more sorry.
    Please, Rurik and the Finland-Swedes are not Fingolians.

    - the reconstructed haplotype of Rurik has its closest matches (outside these Russians) in Finland-Swedes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grynda View Post
    Please, Rurik and the Finland-Swedes are not Fingolians.
    No one is a Fingolian, such a term doesn't exist and doesn't denote any ethnicity.
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    Indo-Europeans were in Finland long before the Uralics got there.

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    Indo-Europeans were in Estonia before Uralics.

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    you look very Eastern European

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    Roughly saying, Estonians are half-Latvians and half-Finns.

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    Estonians are more similar to Russians than Belarusians to Russians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grynda View Post
    Please, Rurik and the Finland-Swedes are not Fingolians.
    I dunno, Finland-Swedes look and act pretty "Fingolian" to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiku View Post
    I dunno, Finland-Swedes look and act pretty "Fingolian" to me.
    Ah, now that would make @Unome proud and make @Hweinlant sigh, LOL.

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    Estonian Vikings are a product of present day Estonians trying to make their history more glorious than it has been. There was a group called Oeselians living in Saaremaa, around 1000 years ago, but we have no evidences who they were. Livonians in union with Curonians and Oeselians controlled the eastern seaside, but I don't think that they were Estonian from the mainland.

    Finland-Swedish look is a mystery. Many of them look pretty nice, but not particularly Swedish. Some of them look strange, giving an idea of a strong local evolution. Two examples

    https://fi-seiska-cdn-prod.seiska.fi...?itok=C-PO1qS-

    https://static.ilcdn.fi/tv-ja-leffat...8102017_tw.jpg

    Those two arre relatives descending from several Finnish and Swedish nobles from Southern Finland. Finland-Swedish examples from Ostrobothnia

    https://i1.wp.com/www.theart2rock.ch...?fit=452%2C312

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...cropped%29.png

    In my opinion generally they look Finnish, mixed European or strange
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    Three simple facts about Finns:
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    2. Finnish I1 (around 30% of all Finns) has Germanic roots from the late Bronze Age or the early Iron Age.
    3. As to the Finnish prehistory we have no evidences about any Iron Age (or later) east-to-west migration, but many unquestionable evidences about west-to-east migrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    There was a group called Oeselians living in Saaremaa, around 1000 years ago, but we have no evidences who they were.
    Well, at least they spoke Baltic Finnic, as noticed by Henricus of Livonia, while Oesilian fleet was attacking crusaders in April 1215 and torturing priests, saying :"Laula! Laula, pappi. "Sing, sing priest".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huck Finn View Post
    Well, at least they spoke Baltic Finnic, as noticed by Henricus of Livonia, while Oesilian fleet was attacking crusaders in April 1215 and torturing priests, saying :"Laula! Laula, pappi. "Sing, sing priest".
    Without doubt they were Baltic-Finns. If they shout "laula pappi" they were Finns, not Estonians or Livonians. In Estonia it is "laulama papp" or "laulma papp".
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    Three simple facts about Finns:
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    2. Finnish I1 (around 30% of all Finns) has Germanic roots from the late Bronze Age or the early Iron Age.
    3. As to the Finnish prehistory we have no evidences about any Iron Age (or later) east-to-west migration, but many unquestionable evidences about west-to-east migrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Without doubt they were Baltic-Finns. If they shout "laula pappi" they were Finns, not Estonians or Livonians. In Estonia it is "laulama papp" or "laulma papp".
    No really, according to Petri Kallio and in those early days i.e. languages still being quite uniform they could have been any Baltic Finns, just by relying on that short quote only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huck Finn View Post
    No really, according to Petri Kallio and in those early days i.e. languages still being quite uniform they could have been any Baltic Finns, just by relying on that short quote only.
    "Pappi" sounds me like a modern Finnish word. I also wonder how those pagan Oesilians used this Russian loan word (pop, Latin papas) in a modern Finnish form to figure Roman Catholic priests.
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    Three simple facts about Finns:
    1. Baltic Finnic languages (including Finnish) never came from the Volga basin along with ancestors of present-day Finns.
    2. Finnish I1 (around 30% of all Finns) has Germanic roots from the late Bronze Age or the early Iron Age.
    3. As to the Finnish prehistory we have no evidences about any Iron Age (or later) east-to-west migration, but many unquestionable evidences about west-to-east migrations.

    Väinämöinen - R1a
    Lemminkäinen - I1
    Joukahainen - N

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