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    @thetick is right, it's one thing if they can get the eye color or hair color right, but exact, detailed facial features to the point that the individual is recognizable and possible to identify visually, we're far off from such advanced genetic understanding of facial traits' DNA.

    No doubt however, will this be possible in the future. But I'm not sure it's even necessary. All newborn children in Sweden (I can't remember when this started, maybe in the 70s or 80s) have their DNA stored, so if anyone commits a crime like that in Sweden where no witnesses are available but DNA is, it's very easy to find the murderer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    All newborn children in Sweden (I can't remember when this started, maybe in the 70s or 80s) have their DNA stored
    What the hell? Seriously? And Swedish people are okay with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    What the hell? Seriously? And Swedish people are okay with this?
    Lol, methinks it isn't far the day in which the government and/or private parties will start full out cloning with this, or some other kind of post-human experimentation shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Andullero View Post
    Lol, methinks it isn't far the day in which the government and/or private parties will start full out cloning with this, or some other kind of post-human experimentation shit.
    I think Google would be more likely to do that with our 23andme data lol.

    Me, I was thinking more the privacy angle. The government isn't getting my DNA, or my children's DNA, hell, not even my cat's DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    I think Google would be more likely to do that with our 23andme data lol.

    Me, I was thinking more the privacy angle. The government isn't getting my DNA, or my children's DNA, hell, not even my cat's DNA.
    That's a bit paranoid considering how little of overall DNA is in a 23andMe test.. ie about 400,000 SNPs while the human genome has 3.2 billion DNA base pairs.

    I would be interested in hearing anyone's experiences with say http://www.basepaws.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    What the hell?
    Yeah I too was like, "WTF?!?! " When I found out. Of course this is like any government's dream, and I've suspected for a long time something like this exists, somewhere, but I wasn't expecting it to be this close to home, lol.

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    Seriously?
    Totally srs:

    https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKU-registret

    ^^ That's how they found out who the murderer of Swedish politician Anna Lindh was. Some other minor crimes have been solved this way too. The PKU registry has been in effect since 1975.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    And Swedish people are okay with this?
    Apparently. Swedes have a lot of trust in government; I think it goes back to the era when the Swedish government was more or less an 'ethnostate' back in the 20th century, and forced sterilizations, lobotomies and similar state abuses were common here (mostly against women and Gypsies), and this trust in the Swedish government has decreased in recent years due to all the third world immigration, but apparently according to that Wikipedia article, both the left-wing and right-wing Swedish parties, when they've been in power, have been trying to expand the possibilities of insurance companies getting access to the PUK-biobank

    Of course such a state biobank is great for solving crimes, but it's a slippery slope to not just cloning but also biological weapons based on race, ethnicity and so on. Such high tech weapons aren't possible today, but I'm sure they will be in the future, once nanotechnology becomes highly advanced.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    Me, I was thinking more the privacy angle. The government isn't getting my DNA, or my children's DNA, hell, not even my cat's DNA.
    How can you stop them though? When mainstream people (what you call, "severely normal") are all okay with it and comply, you'll be branded as a nutcase if you refuse to give your DNA. Also, it's done at birth, so it's not like you have a choice, at least not if you live in Sweden. Most Swedes aren't even aware of the PKU-registry (which is the national biobank).

    Say what you want about Americans and their anti-government dogma, which can reach caricature levels at times and actually make things worse (there are times when the government does good things, seriously), but this is one example where Americans are more sane than Swedes: governments have no business in biobanking billions of people. If it was done for totally benign purposes, okay, fine, but at some point, somewhere, there'll be very serious abuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by thetick View Post
    That's a bit paranoid considering how little of overall DNA is in a 23andMe test.. ie about 400,000 SNPs while the human genome has 3.2 billion DNA base pairs.
    99.9% of those 3.2 billion DNA base pairs, are identical among all humans, and all humans differ with around 3 million SNPs (it's like, around 11 million SNPs in total human variation, or something like that, but unless it's identical twins or close relatives, it's always 3 million SNPs between any human). But that's beside the point: 23andMe only scans around 500,000 SNPs, but we do give these DNA companies access to our full genomes, if they were so inclined to scan it all. And they can also biobank our genomes.

    Anyway those 500,000 SNPs are far more accurate to identify someone, than an ID card, probably more accurate than fingerprints too.
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    It seems dubious to me, in fact it seems like evacuated fecal matter at this point. I gotta say, though, I wasn't aware of that Swedish sampling - especially considering the abilities of DNA based technology in 1975. As far as I can tell from the article, it is actually a blood sample bank, so the DNA tests possible are just hypothetical and not done on all, which would be very expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaM View Post
    I gotta say, though, I wasn't aware of that Swedish sampling
    Most people -- Swedes or otherwise -- aren't.

    Quote Originally Posted by JaM View Post
    especially considering the abilities of DNA based technology in 1975.
    Well obviously they weren't doing genome-wide SNP tests on the FKU-registry back in 1975.

    Quote Originally Posted by JaM View Post
    As far as I can tell from the article, it is actually a blood sample bank, so the DNA tests possible are just hypothetical and not done on all, which would be very expensive.
    This is what it looks like:



    However, they did use the PKU registry to solve the Anna Lindh murder case:

    https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKU-re...a_Lindh-mordet

    And they've also used the PKU registry to solve other crimes in more recent years.
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    In fact, they are not even the Europeans in strict sense, meaning European as in bearing the responsibility and understanding of European interests. Poland has always been an subordinate country, on one side sucking German dick, on the other side -- Russian one, some kind of "novice" europeans, who are full of inferiority complexes, hysteria and obsessity neuroses. This is also true for all Baltic countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    [MENTION=5811] All newborn children in Sweden (I can't remember when this started, maybe in the 70s or 80s) have their DNA stored, so if anyone commits a crime like that in Sweden where no witnesses are available but DNA is, it's very easy to find the murderer.
    Never knew that. America needs to follow suit and start doing the same because our crime rate is high, like really high, especially in and around major cities. I know in most states we collect dna samples from murderers and rapists, but we need to start doing it to criminals in general.
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