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    Default Common ground between SJWs and the Alt Right: racial inequality is inherent

    This is the introduction to Chapter II of the book by Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, 2001, Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. It is a parable that unintentionally illustrates common ground between Critical Race Theory (now better known as "Intersectionality" by supporters and as "SJW" thinking by the critics) and the theory of the Alt Right. Those two camps are thought to be starkly at odds, but they have more common ground with each other than with the remainder of the public at large. I favor the theory of the Alt Right, which is that racial inequality is inherent in human brains. The CRT theory claims that racial inequality is likewise "inherent," not in human brains, but in the "system," which I take to be more of a ghostly point of view, but it is in tune with the data. They know that resolving racial inequality is no mere matter of excising racist beliefs and behaviors.

    Imagine that a pair of businessmen pass a beggar on a busy downtown street. One says something disparaging about “those bums always sticking their hands out—I wish they would get a job.” His friend takes him to task for his display of classism. He explains that the street person may have overheard the remark and had his feelings hurt. He points out that we must all strive to purge ourselves of racism, classism, and sexism, that thoughts have consequences, and that how you speak makes a difference. The first businessman mutters something about political correctness and makes a mental note not to let his true feelings show in front of his friend again.

    Or, imagine that a task force of highly advanced extraterrestrials lands on earth and approaches the nearest human being they can find, who happens to be a street person relaxing on a park bench. They offer him any one of three magic potions. The first is a pill that will rid the world of sexism—demeaning, misogynist attitudes toward women. The second is a pill that will cure racism; the third, one that will cure classism—negative attitudes toward those of lower socioeconomic station than oneself. Introduced into the planet’s water system, each pill will cure one of the three scourges effectively and permanently. The street person, of course, chooses classism and throws pill number three into a nearby water department reservoir.

    Will the lives of poor people like him improve very much the next day? No. Passersby may be somewhat kinder, may smile at them more often, but if something inherent in the nature of our capitalist system ineluctably produces poverty and class segregation, that system will continue to create and chew up victims. Individual street people may feel better, but they will still be street people. And the free enterprise system, which is built on the idea of winners and losers, will continue to produce new ones every day.

    What about racism? Suppose a magic pill were invented, or perhaps an enterprising entrepreneur developed The Ultimate Diversity Seminar, one so effective that it would completely eliminate unkind thoughts, stereotypes, and misimpressions harbored by its participants toward persons of other races. The president’s civil rights advisor prevails on all the nation’s teachers to introduce it into every K–12 classroom, and on the major television networks and cable network news to show it on prime time.

    Would life improve very much for people of color?

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    And then the text proceeds into perfect howlers.

    A contrasting school—the realists or economic determinists—holds that though attitudes and words are important, racism is much more than having an unfavorable impression of members of other groups. For realists, racism is a means by which society allocates privilege and status. Racial hierarchies determine who gets tangible benefits, including the best jobs, the best schools, and invitations to parties in people’s homes. Members of this group point out that prejudice sprang up with slavery. Before then, educated Europeans held a generally positive attitude toward Africans, recognizing that African civilization was highly advanced with vast libraries and centers of learning. Africans pioneered mathematics, medicine, and astronomy long before Europeans had much knowledge of them.

    These are "realists" of Critical Race Theory, mind you. Critics know them as, "we wuz kangz."

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    The common ground between SJWs and alt-right is that they are all adherants of some kind of secular-humanism and/or psudeo-religious authoritarianism/autism.

    Morons.

    Atheists, seculuar-humanists, contribute nothing whatsoever to the development of human civilization. IMO they are at the level of satanists.

    I can talk to a Muslim, Shia, Sunni or whatever, about religion, just like I can talk to a Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant or unchurched Christian, etc.
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    ^ I agree, atheists are obnoxious and autistic. Usually they lack morals and decency since they still think they're in a rebellious teenage phase.

    Anyone remember TheAmazingAtheist? Dude got possessed and shoved a banana up his ass while covering his body in "milk and chocolate syrup" (probably fecal matter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azvarohi View Post
    ^ I agree, atheists are obnoxious and autistic. Usually they lack morals and decency since they still think they're in a rebellious teenage phase.

    Anyone remember TheAmazingAtheist? Dude got possessed and shoved a banana up his ass while covering his body in "milk and chocolate syrup" (probably fecal matter).
    Yeah the edgy online atheists are idiots and assholes. Mainly the reason I am not open about my beliefs (or lack thereof).

    Not that I ever screamed it from the rooftops... it's just my personal conclusions. I have no problem with religion or religious people, for the most part. It teaches good things, and brings people together.

    One theory as to why Acadians live longer than other Canadians (we are most likely to live to be over 100) is because we in general tend to be more religious... the church brings the community together which gives older people more social interaction (senior citizens tend to be lonely in less religious communities), and the memorization of prayers and rituals like saying the rosary can be a "workout" for the brain than can stave off dementia in old age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The American View Post
    The common ground between SJWs and alt-right is that they are all adherants of some kind of secular-humanism and/or psudeo-religious authoritarianism/autism.

    Morons.

    Atheists, seculuar-humanists, contribute nothing whatsoever to the development of human civilization. IMO they are at the level of satanists.

    I can talk to a Muslim, Shia, Sunni or whatever, about religion, just like I can talk to a Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant or unchurched Christian, etc.
    It is not common ground, more like a common swamp, as both camps have a diverse array of religious inclinations, and their religion or lack thereof takes a back seat in most cases. A driving force of the SJW point of view is the set of white liberal and black churches of the USA. The Alt Right tends to favor Christianity mainly as a means of opposing Islam and communism.

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    Does the 'Alt Right' even exist anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Hades View Post
    Does the 'Alt Right' even exist anymore?
    Yes, no less than before, though most of them have abandoned the name, as it is being used as a slur by their critics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Hades View Post
    Does the 'Alt Right' even exist anymore?
    It is synonymous with white nationalist. Re-branding.

    They are now trying to re-brand as the ''Dissident Right'' or ''Patriots'' since people became aware of what Alt-Right truly means (white supremacy).

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    Jared Taylor came up with a good phrase years ago, and I think it needs to catch on among them: "white advocates." It is a broad term that covers all of them. Not all of them are right-wing, not all of them are white nationalists, and only a few of them are white supremacists. Not even all of them are white. But, they all defend the perceived interests of the white race.

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