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    Quote Originally Posted by Lol_Race View Post
    Let me guess: Europeans have prehistoric ancestry from the Middle East, like ancient Egyptians. Therefore, ancient Egyptians were "indigenous" Africans (whatever that means)?
    Dude this is not even about Egypt so don't troll my post with that. I asked this question for a reason, and its even obvious why and it has nothing to do with Egypt.
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    You @beyoku @HabariTess @Roseai are the ones claiming people that have nothing to do with them.I'm a Cushitic descendant of the Sudan and an heir to all it's civilizations while you descend from Ebola stricken negroes from the Congo forest that eat albinos in order to gain superpowers lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
    How is this a troll thread? basically no one can tell me when did Europeans become genetically differentiated into the people they call "European" in genome wide studies. Since Europeans have a mixed background and did not evolved as a single branch from an OOA population, well......lol
    Look at the distance between WHG-Iran Neolithic-Natufian, those clusters are quite old. The Western Hunter Gatherers are a cluster of autochthonal samples from 7K-14K YBP made up of ydna I /I2 and ydna R1b. The ydna I/I2 and R1b also have autochothonal components of European Neaderthal. These to date have not been found in your region of proposed migration either OoA, or Near East[at any elevated quantity]. Then roughly 9K+/- you had the beginning of a migration from the Near East, that mixed with the WHG cluster. Then roughly 4.5K+/- you had an influx of Yamnaya into Eruope, from the Steppe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
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    So Da Bass, will you reveal your wisdom with this thread to us today? I believe your topic question has been answered.
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    Poland is a misunderstanding. It is a country which lies on the frontier between western and slavic world, and which combines elements of both.
    In fact, they are not even the Europeans in strict sense, meaning European as in bearing the responsibility and understanding of European interests. Poland has always been an subordinate country, on one side sucking German dick, on the other side -- Russian one, some kind of "novice" europeans, who are full of inferiority complexes, hysteria and obsessity neuroses. This is also true for all Baltic countries

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    Since we know that Europeans are in fact a mix of several populations, up to three or even four in certain locations, why are modeled as a pure population in genome wide studies and why do geneticists select SNPs that are common to all Europeans and exclude the others, giving the impression of a pure population that is in reality very mixed? The blanket term they use is Eurasian to disguise all of these mixtures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meygaag View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
    Since we know that Europeans are in fact a mix of several populations, up to three or even four in certain locations, why are modeled as a pure population in genome wide studies and why do geneticists select SNPs that are common to all Europeans and exclude the others, giving the impression of a pure population that is in reality very mixed? The blanket term they use is Eurasian to disguise all of these mixtures.
    Europeans are fairly pure when you compare them with other races on a global PCA plot:

    www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/PCA84pops.html

    Yes, Europeans descend from 3-4 ancestral populations, however, these were not proto-Negroid and proto-Mongoloid populations. So while modern Europeans represent a gene pool that is 'mixed', its ingredients were not mixed from the modern major racial groups.
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    Anatolian Urhemait supporters are mostly butthurt Meds.
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    Poland is a misunderstanding. It is a country which lies on the frontier between western and slavic world, and which combines elements of both.
    In fact, they are not even the Europeans in strict sense, meaning European as in bearing the responsibility and understanding of European interests. Poland has always been an subordinate country, on one side sucking German dick, on the other side -- Russian one, some kind of "novice" europeans, who are full of inferiority complexes, hysteria and obsessity neuroses. This is also true for all Baltic countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
    Since we know that Europeans are in fact a mix of several populations, up to three or even four in certain locations, why are modeled as a pure population in genome wide studies and why do geneticists select SNPs that are common to all Europeans and exclude the others, giving the impression of a pure population that is in reality very mixed? The blanket term they use is Eurasian to disguise all of these mixtures.
    You're not very good at this whole genetics thing. Have you ever considered getting a different hobby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polako View Post
    You're not very good at this whole genetics thing. Have you ever considered getting a different hobby?
    I think mainstream people have difficulties understanding that mixed is a relative term, and not all mixes are 'equal' so to say. This is especially common among left-wingers, whose ideological humanism clouds their judgement in this context. I remember @Mike the Jedi telling me once that I'm mixed just because I have some minor Armenian ancestry, as if I were triracial or something, lol.

    Obviously someone who's take say, half Irish and half Sicilian, is mixed, but such a mix is not the equivalent of someone whose ancestry is half Irish and half Kenyan (and so on). As usual it's mathematics involved here, and the genetic distance between Irish and Sicilians is much smaller than the genetic distance between Irish and Kenyans, or Japanese, etcetera.

    So this is a generic cognitive dissonance issue among people like @Game Theory . That's why he has such issues with the ancient Egyptians, and soon he'll be paying me 1000 bucks
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    Poland is a misunderstanding. It is a country which lies on the frontier between western and slavic world, and which combines elements of both.
    In fact, they are not even the Europeans in strict sense, meaning European as in bearing the responsibility and understanding of European interests. Poland has always been an subordinate country, on one side sucking German dick, on the other side -- Russian one, some kind of "novice" europeans, who are full of inferiority complexes, hysteria and obsessity neuroses. This is also true for all Baltic countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polako View Post
    You're not very good at this whole genetics thing. Have you ever considered getting a different hobby?
    Oh, I have been doing more reading into how these genetic studies work and how they are modeled, and even geneticists themselves admit that these studies and samples are European biased, need I come up with quotes that point to this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meygaag View Post
    You @beyoku @HabariTess @Roseai are the ones claiming people that have nothing to do with them.I'm a Cushitic descendant of the Sudan and an heir to all it's civilizations while you descend from Ebola stricken negroes from the Congo forest that eat albinos in order to gain superpowers lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
    Oh, I have been doing more reading into how these genetic studies work and how they are modeled, and even geneticists themselves admit that these studies and samples are European biased, need I come up with quotes that point to this?
    But why would you post these irrelevant quotes?

    Like all latest papers from the major labs, the Egyptian mummy paper used the latest Human Origins dataset, which is specifically designed to avoid sampling and ascertainment bias. I can assure you that it's a wonderful resource. I use it all the time myself.

    So what point are you trying to make here exactly?

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