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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    Yeah, but the thing about McDonald's, is that the automation is taking place this year, and by 2018, most McDonald's jobs will be kitchen staff, which means most McDonald's jobs will be gone, because the cashiers are most of the workers at McDonald's, whereas it's typically at most 5 people working in the kitchen.

    So in other words, McDonald's is phasing out most of their employees. That's why their NYSE:MCD rose 26% with the news of automation.
    Yeah, the process is speeding up. But there are retail jobs being lost like crazy, because of a mix of online shopping and self-checkouts.

    Same in banking, there are banks now that don't have branches at all. Heh. This is my line of work, I pretty much design programs that replace people. I do automation, that is my job.

    And my sister is an industrial engineer. She designs machines that make things, pretty much. When she started a job and went out on the factory floor her first day, all the staff started chanting "ASSHOLE ASSHOLE ASSHOLE!"

    I asked my mother what she thought about all her kids doing jobs that cost other people their jobs lol. But that's the way it goes. Most of the decent-paying jobs where I live are in these sectors, jobs that make things that replace people.

    Wait until more and more currencies go blockchain... that is gonna be a cluster too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    Yeah, the process is speeding up. But there are retail jobs being lost like crazy, because of a mix of online shopping and self-checkouts.

    Same in banking, there are banks now that don't have branches at all. Heh. This is my line of work, I pretty much design programs that replace people. I do automation, that is my job.
    Very true. About 75% of my work is automation, testing and debug. The other 24.99% is documentation. And the .01% is the actually running of the command to trigger an approved production deployment. Agile / DevOps / Automation has become the standard in almost all industries.

    A decade ago there were departments of operations people who did manual tasks.... thousands of lost jobs. It's not an unreasonable estimate that I replaced hundreds of manual operations people and my department replaced thousands of manual operations people ....all at a single company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    Yeah, but the thing about McDonald's, is that the automation is taking place this year, and by 2018, most McDonald's jobs will be kitchen staff, which means most McDonald's jobs will be gone, because the cashiers are most of the workers at McDonald's, whereas it's typically at most 5 people working in the kitchen.

    So in other words, McDonald's is phasing out most of their employees. That's why their NYSE:MCD rose 26% with the news of automation.
    While most businesses here have some level of automation, e.g. grocery stores w/ self-checkout and delivery to your house; restaurants with little tablets to play games and pay your bill, I think has to do more with McDonald's constantly decreasing sales in the US (and Canada), which is opposite to how it is for them in the rest of the world. Basically, they're losing money, so they're cutting costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Apple View Post
    While most businesses here have some level of automation, e.g. grocery stores w/ self-checkout and delivery to your house; restaurants with little tablets to play games and pay your bill, I think has to do more with McDonald's constantly decreasing sales in the US (and Canada), which is opposite to how it is for them in the rest of the world. Basically, they're losing money, so they're cutting costs.
    It's not just McDonald's going automation though, and it's not just in the US where it's happening. Max in Sweden is increasing automation too, and so are grocery stores. Yeah they're cutting costs, but there's no reason to employ cashiers these days.
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    I think it is only a plus that monotonous jobs with only small career growth possibilities are getting automatized. I don't think many people enjoy doing them anyway. I think people should spend time on doing what they really want to do or what interests them, spend time with family etc.
    The major drawback for loss of workplaces is, of course, loss of income. But, as some have stated here already, this problem could be solved by bringing up the basic income for everybody.

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    Getting rid of cachiers have more advantages than it seems. The machines are more reliable. They wont try to steal or forget. At the end of the shift, cachiers account must be checked and calculated. Also they must be followed on cam if they give receipt. Thats much lose of time and money.

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    Another problem no body wants to talk about is those robots and automation don't eat. They don't drive. They contribute zero to the economy the way a lower or middle class person would. That hypothetical wage is just sucked into a black hole.

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    Anyone with half a brain won't work for McDonald's , anyway. There is a chapter in the New York times bestselling book "Freakonomics" called "Why Do Drug Dealers Still Live With their Moms ?" in it they say only a very few people, at the top, of the Pyramid, get rich and they said it's the same with fast food joints--it's a pyramid scheme with little room for real advancement. You are better off doing hardcore menial labor, as an apprentice , to a tradesman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IstenmeyenTuy View Post
    Getting rid of cachiers have more advantages than it seems. The machines are more reliable. They wont try to steal or forget. At the end of the shift, cachiers account must be checked and calculated. Also they must be followed on cam if they give receipt. Thats much lose of time and money.
    I hate the machines. Especially when I am waiting for one and there is some old person using one and they can't figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beyoku View Post
    Another problem no body wants to talk about is those robots and automation don't eat. They don't drive. They contribute zero to the economy the way a lower or middle class person would. That hypothetical wage is just sucked into a black hole.
    Sorry, bro, but a McDonald's job is not lower middle class. A clerk or a nurse etc... Is more lower middle class.
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