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    Default Basque women, R1b and lack of Indo-Europeanization explained

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    One of the highest levels of R1b is found among the Basques, who speak a non- Indo-European language isolate; which contradicts an exclusively or predominantly Indo-European source. One hypothesis about the case of the Basques is that a male-dominated Indo-European-speaking people invaded and conquered the Basque region, and then, having brought no or few women with them, married local women, possibly from a matrilineal society. The women then raised the children that resulted to speak their own language and with their cultural practices, rather than those of the fathers'. This possible explanation further addresses the point that while other high-R1b regions in Western Europe (such as the British Isles and southern Germany) show disproportionately high incidences of MtDNA haplogroups that correspond to a Pontic Steppes origin (specifically MtDNA Haplogroups I, U2, U3, U4, and W), the Basque region does not. In fact, the Basque region displays virtually no MtDNA for which Pontic Steppes origin could be claimed.[20]
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    So there we have it, it seems that R1b guys didn't bring their sisters to the party in Basque speaking regions of Spain/France. This naturally begs the question: how much Yamnaya mtDNA, do the Spaniards and French folks have?
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    This also begs the question, how come the R1b blokes in Basque territory, didn't stay around to teach their half-Basque children their ways, and why didn't they import their sisters over there, when they obviously colonized other parts of Spain and France?

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    Basque women resisted Indo-Europeanization? ---> Basque women, R1b and lack of Indo-Europeanization explained

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    “The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance.” ― Socrates

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    Anatolian Urhemait supporters are mostly butthurt Meds.
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    Poland is a misunderstanding. It is a country which lies on the frontier between western and slavic world, and which combines elements of both.
    In fact, they are not even the Europeans in strict sense, meaning European as in bearing the responsibility and understanding of European interests. Poland has always been an subordinate country, on one side sucking German dick, on the other side -- Russian one, some kind of "novice" europeans, who are full of inferiority complexes, hysteria and obsessity neuroses. This is also true for all Baltic countries

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    Maybe the R1b men didn't like the feminist Basque women and that's why they up and left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    Maybe the R1b men didn't like the feminist Basque women and that's why they up and left.
    I don't think feminism had anything to do with it

    By the way, I just noticed that the Wikipedia article is using Eupedia as a source for these statements, so that makes this unreliable information.
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    Poland is a misunderstanding. It is a country which lies on the frontier between western and slavic world, and which combines elements of both.
    In fact, they are not even the Europeans in strict sense, meaning European as in bearing the responsibility and understanding of European interests. Poland has always been an subordinate country, on one side sucking German dick, on the other side -- Russian one, some kind of "novice" europeans, who are full of inferiority complexes, hysteria and obsessity neuroses. This is also true for all Baltic countries

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    Ah, it's from Eupedia. Ok.
    Whenever I see "matrilinear society" I think it's a form of feminism. The Basque women refused to let the R1b men teach the kids anything, so the men left.

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    Basque women were just procreating with some kidnapped IE R1blokes who got murdered after getting enough of them pregnant. They did it to avenge their brothers and fathers slaughtered by IE raiding party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    Ah, it's from Eupedia. Ok.
    It's funny how Wikipedians have these super strict reliable sources standards about peer review, journals and so on, yet for genetics articles, they seem to be fine with citing Eupedia and genome bloggers.

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    Whenever I see "matrilinear society" I think it's a form of feminism. The Basque women refused to let the R1b men teach the kids anything, so the men left.
    Either that, or the original Basque males were the first beta male cucks of Europe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioterus View Post
    Basque women were just procreating with some kidnapped IE R1blokes who got murdered after getting enough of them pregnant. They did it to avenge their brothers and fathers slaughtered by IE raiding party.

    I liked the scenario. They had some Anatolian Amazon spirit then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioterus View Post
    Basque women were just procreating with some kidnapped IE R1blokes who got murdered after getting enough of them pregnant. They did it to avenge their brothers and fathers slaughtered by IE raiding party.

    Yes, I think that's the best theory so far. It makes sense. And the Indo-European men were so scared they never again tried to conquer the Basques.

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