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    Quote Originally Posted by MnM View Post
    Off topic but interesting check this out.

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    There doesn't have to be any ancient connection, since this image of Baphomet was invented by a French dude named Éliphas Lévi. Hence he could've copied the design from already existing figures (it is a similar symbolism to Christ, who also have a hand sign in many images). This symbol has risen to prominence in conspiracy circles, but it just some made up bollocks. In the mid to late nineteenth century there was this trend of romanticising just about anything, including the so called "occult" so a lot of bullshit was made up. It's also at this point the pentagram was integrated with Baphomet, despite it had always been a regular Christian symbol. It wasn't until movies and general pop culture that these things became widely known. Bizarrely it shows that people actually do get their knowledge from horror movies and such, which is quite pathetic actually.

    Anyway, I think Misery (for example) is better than The Exorcist, but of course the latter movie was more groundbreaking for its time.

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    Read the book that this movie is based on. I read The Exorcist when I was 40ish; I watched the movie of the same name in my early-20s and I was scared shitless. I didn't sleep for a day or two.

    The Exorcist, the book... Is scarier to me than the movie. I can watch the movie and not bat an eye, but the book creeps me out.
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    Baphomet wasn't even satanic in origins. It was a pagan deity that represented balance through both chaos and order. Baphomet was neither good nor bad, and just existed almost like a force nature. Hence why the deity is both man and beast, male and female, "as above, so below", ect. Baphomet became associated with the satanic occult during the crusades when the church discovered that some of their knights stationed in the Middle East were worshipping the deity, and sacrificing animals and denoting their jewelry to it's statues as offerings.

    The church had the knights imprisoned and put on trial, some committed suicide knowing what was in store for them, the remaining knights who didn't were tortured into "confessing" that they were devil worshippers, and then executed for heresy. Since then, Baphomet has been associated with the satanic occult. Hell, even most modern satanists don't believe in the devil, let alone any god in general. Baphomet is seen less as a deity to them, and more as a symbol against authority and conformity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MnM View Post
    I haven't seen the remake. Is it worth a watch?
    If you are very bored. Otherwise no. It is almost as useless as Stephen King's own version of The Shining (where Stephen Weeber chase his family with a cricket club, unlike epic Jack Nicholson who used an axe).
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    Quote Originally Posted by saru21 View Post
    Baphomet wasn't even satanic in origins. It was a pagan deity that represented balance through both chaos and order. Baphomet was neither good nor bad, and just existed almost like a force nature. Hence why the deity is both man and beast, male and female, "as above, so below", ect. Baphomet became associated with the satanic occult during the crusades when the church discovered that some of their knights stationed in the Middle East were worshipping the deity, and sacrificing animals and denoting their jewelry to it's statues as offerings.

    The church had the knights imprisoned and put on trial, some committed suicide knowing what was in store for them, the remaining knights who didn't were tortured into "confessing" that they were devil worshippers, and then executed for heresy. Since then, Baphomet has been associated with the satanic occult. Hell, even most modern satanists don't believe in the devil, let alone any god in general. Baphomet is seen less as a deity to them, and more as a symbol against authority and conformity.
    Baphomet is, like "Witch" used as an accusation. None of them actually exists. It's just a ploy by the Catholic church to remove the Templars and their wealth, since they had become too powerful. There's no evidence that Baphomet existed before the templars were accused.

    So basically Baphomet has no properties, no relation to anything pagan, it was just made up so that the Templars could be accused of heresy. Some people have theorized that it was a bastardisation of the name Muhammad, but even that has no real evidence.

    Unfortunately, due to pop culture, especially juvenile tv shows which romanticise various occult things, Witchcraft is now either "pagan tradition, wicca" or real "magik", when in reality it was a made up accusation by the church. Same with Baphomet, which is most prominent in fundamentalist Christian conspiracy circles; made up by the Catholic church as yet another accusation of heresy.

    But, hey, if you want to believe it was a pagan deity, so be it. Just shows it's very easy to make people believe imaginary things.

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