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    Question Nikola Tesla was not I2a but R1a

    Apparently they've recently tested more male relatives of the famous inventor.

    Google Translated:

    "The Serbian-American inventor Nikola Tesla most probably does not belong to the haplogroup I-CTS10228. The first tested Tesla with haplogroup I2a is most likely the descendant of a man who entered Tesla and got the last name of Tesla through the female line. The man's name was Kalinic.

    The tested second Tesla was tested two months ago and belongs to the haplogroup R1a-M458 and has a family tree and is directly related to Nikola Tesla by the male line. Direct ancestor of Tesla belonging to R1a and grandfather of Nikola Tesla were born brothers.

    We will have to wait to test another or possibly two Tesla to have a final confirmation. However, it is almost certain that Nikola Tesla had a haplogroup R1a. Because Tesla was tested in close association with Nikola Tesla, four knees (?) share them with common ancestors.

    Tested Tesla's 2 test done at Belgrade's Serbia, DNA lab. The result is:

    DYS393, DYS390, DYS19, DYS385a, DYS385b, DYS439, DYS389i, DYS392, DYS389ii, DYS458, DYS437, DYS448, YGATAH4, DYS456, DYS576, DYS570, DYS438, DYS481, DYS549, DYS533, DYS635, DYS643

    13 25 16 10 11-14--12 13 11 29 16-----14 20------11--17-19 21---11 25 12 12 23 10

    R1a-M458> CTS11962"

    Source: www.poreklo.rs, Serbian DNA.

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    More about it:

    Some guy with surname Tesla was tested few year ago and he is I2-PH908, but he say that he is not real Tesla, because his ancestor married some Tesla girl and adopted her surname, real surname of his ancestor was Kalinić.

    Other guy with surname Tesla was tested about 2 month ago, he is from Lika from same village as Tesla's father (that guy and Tesla have a common ancestor in the male line) and he is R1a-M458.

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    Now I Am really, really sad. I am left with Marcin Łoter (Martin Luther) only. Holy crap.

    and the IEEE Milestone for breaking the Enigma Code goes to... Polish Cipher Bureau 1932-39

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    Geralt remained silent. Tired, he had nothing to say. “How... How will it happen?” he asked her at last, coldly and without emotion. “I will take you by the hand,” she replied, looking him straight in the eye. “I will take you by the hand and lead you across the meadow, through a cold and wet fog.” “And after? What is there beyond the fog?” “Nothing,” she replied, smiling. “After that, there is nothing.”
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    And SHG and WHG, don't worry, may the Loschbour be with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioterus View Post
    Now I Am really, really sad. I am left with Marcin Łoter (Martin Luther) only. Holy crap.

    Interesting, I didn't know that Martin Luther was of Slavic origin.

    He was born in Eisleben in Saxony-Anhalt first recorded under the name Islebia:

    Quote Originally Posted by WIKIPEDIA
    Eisleben is a town in Saxony-Anhalt, Germany. It is famous as the hometown of Martin Luther
    (...)
    Eisleben was first mentioned in 997 as a market called Islebia, and in 1180 as a town.



    But he was a self-hating Slav:

    The Reformator Martin Luther from Wittenberg was not a friend of the Sorbs, but made disparaging remarks about »the worst of all nations« in his speeches at meals. Philipp Melanchthon was more tolerant and was proud on the fact, that his son-in-law Kaspar Peuker, a native Bautzener, also used the sorbian language at his meals. However, not the personal tendencies of the Reformators were crucial, but their programmatic demands and the effects of their work.

    From 1490 to 1635 the Upper and the Lower Lausitz were bohemian feud with their own constitution in each case, except the district Cottbuss, which belonged to Brandenburg. Due to these rule conditions the principle of the Augsburger Reich parliament of 1555 "cuius regio, eius religio" ("whose country, whose religion") could not completely gain acceptance. After partially violent arguments, 90 per cent of the Sorbs became evangelist, while in the areas, which were subordinated to the cathedral foundation ST. Petri in Bautzen and the monastery Marienstern, some municipalities with approximately 10000 souls, remained catholic.

    Starting from the middle of the 16. Century some Protestant of clergyman - taking up the reformatorian principle of the sermon in the native language -, began to create their own sorbian religious literature, by translating the core works of the protestantism, Bible, Catechism and songbook, out of the German. Thus the sorbian writing language developed. In 1548 Miklaws Jakubica translated Luther's New Testament into Sorbian, without that a printing took place. In 1574 appeared Luther's Catechism, in conjunction with a songbook, in the lower sorbian translation of the Albin Moller, in 1597 Wjaclaw Warichius published Luther's Catechism in upper sorbian language.
    "History of the Sorbs (Wends)"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wojewoda View Post
    Interesting, I didn't know that Martin Luther was of Slavic origin.

    He was born in Eisleben in Saxont-Anhalt first recorded under the name Islebia:



    "Here" a discusstion about "leben" endings of toponyms in Germany.
    Yep, as far as we can trust Maciamo, Luther was I2a-L621.

    I do wonder if Friedrich Nietzsche was also a I2a-L621/ R1a-M458 Sorb by paternal descent
    and the IEEE Milestone for breaking the Enigma Code goes to... Polish Cipher Bureau 1932-39

    “We know each other,” he agreed. “They say that you follow in my steps.”
    “I go my own way. But you, you had never, until just now, looked behind you. You turned back today for the first time.”
    Geralt remained silent. Tired, he had nothing to say. “How... How will it happen?” he asked her at last, coldly and without emotion. “I will take you by the hand,” she replied, looking him straight in the eye. “I will take you by the hand and lead you across the meadow, through a cold and wet fog.” “And after? What is there beyond the fog?” “Nothing,” she replied, smiling. “After that, there is nothing.”
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    The name of Eisleben/Islebia where Luther was born is interesting:



    Quote Originally Posted by Jassa
    And speaking of that – we also now know that Łeba meant “forest” in Wendish…

    So what does that mean for all the -leben suffixes in Germany?
    "On Thuringian Loibas"

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    This is not right. According to alpha-beta male orthodoxy, R1b are the nerdy beta males who do science and shit, and R1a are the dumb, aggressive alpha males. So Tesla must have been R1b! This is also why western Europe is scientifically ahead of eastern Europe.
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    Let's put a face to the brilliant R1a scientist.


    At the age of 21, Tesla earned a PhD. He ultimately held four PhD degrees (Philosophy, Physics, Electrical Engineering, and Mechanical engineering).

    His exact Intelligence Quotient is not known, but it is estimated to be 200 (+/- 2). To put this into perspective:

    -- Stephen Hawking - 160
    -- Paul Allen - 170
    -- Garry Kasparov - 192
    -- Isaac Newton - 193
    -- Leonardo Da Vinci - 200




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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    Let's put a face to the brilliant R1a scientist.


    At the age of 21, Tesla earned a PhD. He ultimately held four PhD degrees (Philosophy, Physics, Electrical Engineering, and Mechanical engineering).

    His exact Intelligence Quotient is not known, but it is estimated to be 200 (+/- 2). To put this into perspective:

    -- Stephen Hawking - 160
    -- Paul Allen - 170
    -- Garry Kasparov - 192
    -- Isaac Newton - 193
    -- Leonardo Da Vinci - 200



    and that's what happens when a Northern BarbaR1an mixes with Southern, Civilised Wog.
    We need to conquer Balcans once again to create more Teslas
    and the IEEE Milestone for breaking the Enigma Code goes to... Polish Cipher Bureau 1932-39

    “We know each other,” he agreed. “They say that you follow in my steps.”
    “I go my own way. But you, you had never, until just now, looked behind you. You turned back today for the first time.”
    Geralt remained silent. Tired, he had nothing to say. “How... How will it happen?” he asked her at last, coldly and without emotion. “I will take you by the hand,” she replied, looking him straight in the eye. “I will take you by the hand and lead you across the meadow, through a cold and wet fog.” “And after? What is there beyond the fog?” “Nothing,” she replied, smiling. “After that, there is nothing.”
    ― Andrzej Sapkowski
    Świat się zmienia, słońce zachodzi, a wódka się kończy [The world is changing, sun is setting and we're running out of Vodka.]
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