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    Default Famous Viking Warrior Was a Woman, DNA Evidence Reveals.

    Well known Viking gravesite long thought to belong to a male warrior turns out to belong to a female after DNA testing. This is thought to be significant in redefining the gender roles of women in history. However, the story is not without controversy. Some now question whether the gravesite containing female remains was truly indicative of a viking warrior.

    I had thought it was well known that ancient nordic women were Shield Maidens who fought as warriors in their own right but it seems some call that a myth too. I find it a bit odd that no one seemed to raise questions about the warrior status of the remains until they were identified as a woman so there could be lots of denial going on. What do you think?



    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2...chaeology-spd/

    Famous Viking Warrior Was a Woman, DNA Reveals
    New evidence forces reconsideration of a well-known gravesite—and may shed light on Viking gender roles.

    By Michael Greshko

    PUBLISHED September 12, 2017

    More than a millennium ago in what’s now southeastern Sweden, a wealthy Viking warrior was laid to rest, in a resplendent grave filled with swords, arrowheads, and two sacrificed horses. The site reflected the ideal of Viking male warrior life, or so many archaeologists had thought.

    New DNA analyses of the bones, however, confirm a revelatory find: the grave belonged to a woman.

    The study, published recently in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology, sends ripples of surprise through archaeologists’ understanding of the Vikings, medieval seafarers who traded and raided across Europe for centuries. (Explore how Vikings really lived in National Geographic magazine.) ---SNIP---
    http://mashable.com/2017/09/12/femal.../#yQqiMxIKfmq1

    Why that 'female Viking warrior' story is more complicated than you think
    By Gianlucca Mezzofiore

    It's a hell of a story: DNA analysis of a 10th century skeleton found at a burial in the Swedish town of Birka — a huge trade hub — revealed that a Viking military leader was actually a woman.

    SEE ALSO: DNA confirms Viking remains belonged to a female military leader

    The grave (known as Bj 581) was first discovered in the 1880s but only recently tested for DNA. The body was found with a sword, an axe, a spear, armor-piercing arrows, a bottle knife, two shields, and two horses. All those components suggest that the body belonged to a professional warrior, according to the authors of the study.

    “Written sources mention female warriors occasionally, but this is the first time that we’ve really found convincing archaeological evidence for their existence,” said Uppsala archaeologist Neil Price in a press release.

    Social media was abuzz with people praising the diversity of Viking's society, while media outlets (including Mashable) published countless articles with the same catchy headlines. It's a fascinating story, that attracts the people's imagination.

    But there's a catch. ---SNIP---

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    Wow jumping to conclusions big time for the shocker in history all driven by the PC everyone is equal and gets a trophy mentaility.

    I think it's just as likely or even more likely that a well respected Viking warrior was killed and likely embarrassed in battle so the remaining family protected the legend by putting all the warriors remaining artifacts in a grave with a recently deceased female.

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    How she was famous, give a name. Or do you mean that all Vikings were famous?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetick View Post
    Wow jumping to conclusions big time for the shocker in history all driven by the PC everyone is equal and gets a trophy mentaility.

    I think it's just as likely or even more likely that a well respected Viking warrior was killed and likely embarrassed in battle so the remaining family protected the legend by putting all the warriors remaining artifacts in a grave with a recently deceased female.
    I'm not sure what you mean or how your theory is just as likely. In this situation is everyone gets a trophy like the losing confederate general Robert E. Lee getting a trophies/monuments? If women played these parts in history why shouldn't the truth of that fact be studied and properly reflected? To me facts are facts. You don't have to like them so is it a PC thing only because the people you don't politically agree with find something they like in this revelation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    How she was famous, give a name. Or do you mean that all Vikings were famous?
    From the study and reports she is famous in the same way that Tutankhamun is famous. This historically and archaeologically significant burial site (the Birka site) is highly relevant to history as a major Viking trading settlement and Viking burial ground. The grave also was highly relevant to the people who buried her with uncommon decorations of honor in a known Viking burial ground.

    Does that help explain it?

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    Sweden YES!


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    Those Bronze Age samples are just red herrings to distract you from the actual arrivals of populations with Semitic ancestry. Don’t take the bait by focusing on the wrong samples, lol. He is passing off Bronze Age Levantines with no evidence of strong predynastic input, as “Semites“. This way, he can flip it around and say Proto-Semitic speakers and predynastics were more or less identical to the Bronze Age Levantines sampled so far.

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    She could have been the widow of a male warrior:
    https://www.svt.se/nyheter/vetenskap...ren-var-kvinna

    "We know that women who became widows had special powers, and could completely take a man's position, so it is not unthinkable that some of these women we find in special situations, and for us a little unexpected, may have been widows, because then you have the opportunity to fill many different types of costumes, so to speak, she says.
    Valkyria myths are nothing new anyway


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    Sweden YES!
    This story looks like one of those "Jews did this to muh white race".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWF View Post
    From the study and reports she is famous in the same way that Tutankhamun is famous.
    Wow.


    This historically and archaeologically significant burial site (the Birka site) is highly relevant to history as a major Viking trading settlement and Viking burial ground. The grave also was highly relevant to the people who buried her with uncommon decorations of honor in a known Viking burial ground.

    Does that help explain it?
    Actually not, but I can live with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janos View Post
    This story looks like one of those "Jews did this to muh white race".
    Yes, the Jews are behind all this.


    Quote Originally Posted by NonFingo View Post
    Those Bronze Age samples are just red herrings to distract you from the actual arrivals of populations with Semitic ancestry. Don’t take the bait by focusing on the wrong samples, lol. He is passing off Bronze Age Levantines with no evidence of strong predynastic input, as “Semites“. This way, he can flip it around and say Proto-Semitic speakers and predynastics were more or less identical to the Bronze Age Levantines sampled so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semitic Duwa View Post
    Yes, the Jews are behind all this.
    Hey, female Viking warriors is no different from modern Israeli female soldiers
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oNA-SXbLzP...25285%2529.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Wow.
    I've never heard about her or him before, we don't even have a name.
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