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    Are all Kikuyus scoring like what I’m seeing here? Or it’s just some many outliers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mpatsibihugu View Post
    How does your beta ancestry look? did it change much? Also can you share maasai results from 23andme if you have any? Thanks. I am really curious to see Kalenjins, turkana, samburu, hadza, datog or iraqw who tested with 23andme. I am curious how much we all have in common by sharing the Southeastern african cluster.
    I'm not sure what you mean by beta ancestry. Maybe if you explain that I can figure it out.

    The complexity of ancestry is that we come from families which also have a lot of individual stories within them and that will complicate our idea of tribe. That means that members of a similar tribe might have more genetic diversity than found between two people of unrelated tribes. For example there are many instances of people changing their ethnicity even in the old days e.g. to escape war, famine etc. Those events will typically change the genetic makeup of a tribe a few generations later but will be more profound among members of certain families.

    The Masai relative I have on 23andme is a bit more South East African i.e. 80% than me but has same proportion of Sudanese and Ethiopian/Eritrean as me. But then even within my family we know for sure of our part Masai heritage because of names which indicate Masai origin - this is quite prevalent in Kikuyu country. A big number of Masai were assimilated into the tribe during the great Masai wars and there had always been a lot of intermarriage between the two tribes which continues to this day.

    The Kamba relative I have has a lot less East African than me i.e. 63% and typically double my Sudanese and Ethiopian/Eritrean percentages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espoir View Post
    Are all Kikuyus scoring like what I’m seeing here? Or it’s just some many outliers?
    Most of my relatives on 23andme are Kikuyu and based on their results the pattern for most Kikuyus is as follows

    1. 60% - 80% South East African (Great Lakes Bantu)
    2. 5% - 10% Sudanese
    3. 3% - 5% Ethiopian
    4. Broadly North East African - 3% - 4%
    5. Broadly West African - 2% - 3%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karey View Post
    How curious. In my research I learned that there is a tribe in Tanzania called the Daiso (also Segeju) who speak a language so similar to Kamba that it's mutually intelligible. Historians believe that the Bantu descendants of the Meru, Kikuyu, Embu and Kamba came from the same region as the Daiso.

    By the way, do you have any Kalenjin, Maasai or Kamba gedmatch matches? I don't seem to have any. Not even one.

    If you are interested, I made a short video of my gedmatch results...

    It's just meant to highlight our East African ancestry which for some reason has been overlooked, forgotten and even dismissed despite it's preponderance in our DNA.
    Wow you're very beautiful and smart.

    I shared my Masai and Kamba matches in an earlier post. Check it out.

    I'm not surprised with the East African DNA. I will do some further research on this and post here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curious_African View Post
    Most of my relatives on 23andme are Kikuyu and based on their results the pattern for most Kikuyus is as follows

    1. 60% - 80% South East African (Great Lakes Bantu)
    2. 5% - 10% Sudanese
    3. 3% - 5% Ethiopian
    4. Broadly North East African - 3% - 4%
    5. Broadly West African - 2% - 3%

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    Wow you're very beautiful and smart.

    I shared my Masai and Kamba matches in an earlier post. Check it out.

    I'm not surprised with the East African DNA. I will do some further research on this and post here.
    Wow! I’m surprise by that high SEA and very low NEA of u guys. I expected more. This puts me in more confusion now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espoir View Post
    Wow! I’m surprise by that high SEA and very low NEA of u guys. I expected more. This puts me in more confusion now.
    It's likely that Kikuyu form part of the SEA classification and hence the high results. 23andme haven't released the source populations for the different classifications.

    A bit of a correction, The highest end of Ethiopian and Sudanese is in the 15% region.

    Some of my Kikuyu matches have a bit of Somali in them as well like 2%-3%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curious_African View Post
    It's likely that Kikuyu form part of the SEA classification and hence the high results. 23andme haven't released the source populations for the different classifications.

    A bit of a correction, The highest end of Ethiopian and Sudanese is in the 15% region.

    Some of my Kikuyu matches have a bit of Somali in them as well like 2%-3%
    Interesting, did you get a chance to participate in “Beta program”?
    Our Somali % is in that range too.

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