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    Yeah. It's not a secret .

    Why does this Orcadian come up much for me? In 3 and 4 populations approximation.

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    Sorry for bad quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino1990 View Post
    And then we got Gencove results :


    Still nothing Italian. Not even north Italian.
    wierd stuff
    gencove is not the best calculator you know

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    i gave you the email of lukasz the creator of k47
    you can ask him and send him your autosomal raw data
    i gave you his emaill: in anthroscape zetaboards
    the killer look :)

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    Thanks. Will do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino1990 View Post
    Yeah. It's not a secret .

    Why does this Orcadian come up much for me? In 3 and 4 populations approximation.
    Orcadians do have some actual Viking admixture.
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    Anatolian Urhemait supporters are mostly butthurt Meds.
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    Poland is a misunderstanding. It is a country which lies on the frontier between western and slavic world, and which combines elements of both.
    In fact, they are not even the Europeans in strict sense, meaning European as in bearing the responsibility and understanding of European interests. Poland has always been an subordinate country, on one side sucking German dick, on the other side -- Russian one, some kind of "novice" europeans, who are full of inferiority complexes, hysteria and obsessity neuroses. This is also true for all Baltic countries

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    Would be happy for more comments and input.

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    puntDNAL K10 Ancient Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 WHG 45.68
    2 ENF 26.33
    3 CHG 21.35
    4 Siberian 5.80


    Finished reading population data. 108 populations found.
    10 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Utahn_white @ 6.609304
    2 English_South @ 6.720030
    3 German_South @ 6.817110
    4 Croatian @ 6.895021
    5 Czech @ 7.396027
    6 Irish @ 7.493681
    7 Hungarian @ 7.942934
    8 German_North @ 8.319317
    9 Scottish_West @ 8.474805
    10 French @ 9.034668
    11 Ukrainian @ 10.882300
    12 Norwegian @ 11.044751
    13 Icelandic @ 11.232982
    14 Bulgarian @ 14.276195
    15 Mordovian @ 15.324806
    16 Spanish_Northeast @ 15.551012
    17 Belarusian @ 15.598756
    18 Finnish @ 15.626720
    19 Italian_North @ 16.664392
    20 Russian @ 17.168278

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Finnish +50% Italian_North @ 2.462602


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Russian +25% Hungarian +25% Sardinian @ 1.917385


    Using 4 populations approximation:
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    1 Lithuanian + Basque_Spanish + Chuvash + Tuscan @ 1.908505
    2 Russian + Russian + Hungarian + Sardinian @ 1.917385
    3 Basque_Spanish + German_South + Hungarian + Chuvash @ 1.935394
    4 Lithuanian + German_North + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 1.955029
    5 Lithuanian + Irish + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 1.991970
    6 Lithuanian + Hungarian + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 1.992086
    7 Lithuanian + Utahn_white + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 2.005426
    8 Basque_Spanish + German_South + Croatian + Chuvash @ 2.023256
    9 Basque_Spanish + Utahn_white + Croatian + Chuvash @ 2.060626
    10 Basque_Spanish + Utahn_white + German_South + Chuvash @ 2.077467
    11 Finnish + Finnish + Spanish_Northeast + Albanian @ 2.086838
    12 Basque_Spanish + Irish + German_South + Chuvash @ 2.100093
    13 Basque_Spanish + Croatian + Croatian + Chuvash @ 2.105301
    14 Lithuanian + Basque_Spanish + Chuvash + Italian_South @ 2.110162
    15 Belarusian + German_North + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 2.118561
    16 Lithuanian + Croatian + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 2.123705
    17 Basque_Spanish + German_South + German_South + Chuvash @ 2.124767
    18 Basque_Spanish + Utahn_white + Hungarian + Chuvash @ 2.171062
    19 Finnish + Russian + Spanish_Northeast + Tuscan @ 2.173887
    20 Basque_Spanish + German_North + French + Chuvash @ 2.184382


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 51.6% Finnish + 48.4% Italian_North @ 2.32
    2 71% Mordovian + 29% Sardinian @ 2.43
    3 51.9% Russian + 48.1% Spanish_Southwest @ 2.5
    4 68.5% Russian + 31.5% Sardinian @ 2.51
    5 94.7% Utahn_white + 5.3% Nganasan @ 2.55
    6 50.4% Mordovian + 49.6% Spanish_Northeast @ 2.82
    7 58.6% Finnish + 41.4% Tuscan @ 2.85
    8 59.8% Finnish + 40.2% Italian_South @ 2.86
    9 92.8% Utahn_white + 7.2% Dolgan @ 2.88
    10 52.6% Spanish_Northeast + 47.4% Russian @ 2.88
    11 90.7% German_South + 9.3% Selkup @ 3.01
    12 94.9% English_South + 5.1% Nganasan @ 3.18
    13 94.8% German_South + 5.2% Nganasan @ 3.22
    14 66.3% Finnish + 33.7% Sicilian @ 3.23
    15 93.8% Utahn_white + 6.2% Yakut @ 3.25
    16 91.3% Utahn_white + 8.7% Selkup @ 3.25
    17 55% Mordovian + 45% Spanish_Southwest @ 3.32
    18 64.7% French + 35.3% Finnish @ 3.33
    19 66.9% French + 33.1% Russian @ 3.34
    20 50.7% Italian_North + 49.3% Russian @ 3.42

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    This population distance. How does it work really? I know it should be close to zero to represent my own genome. But can somebody please explain more?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino1990 View Post
    puntDNAL K10 Ancient Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 WHG 45.68
    2 ENF 26.33
    3 CHG 21.35
    4 Siberian 5.80


    Finished reading population data. 108 populations found.
    10 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Utahn_white @ 6.609304
    2 English_South @ 6.720030
    3 German_South @ 6.817110
    4 Croatian @ 6.895021
    5 Czech @ 7.396027
    6 Irish @ 7.493681
    7 Hungarian @ 7.942934
    8 German_North @ 8.319317
    9 Scottish_West @ 8.474805
    10 French @ 9.034668
    11 Ukrainian @ 10.882300
    12 Norwegian @ 11.044751
    13 Icelandic @ 11.232982
    14 Bulgarian @ 14.276195
    15 Mordovian @ 15.324806
    16 Spanish_Northeast @ 15.551012
    17 Belarusian @ 15.598756
    18 Finnish @ 15.626720
    19 Italian_North @ 16.664392
    20 Russian @ 17.168278

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Finnish +50% Italian_North @ 2.462602


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Russian +25% Hungarian +25% Sardinian @ 1.917385


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
    1 Lithuanian + Basque_Spanish + Chuvash + Tuscan @ 1.908505
    2 Russian + Russian + Hungarian + Sardinian @ 1.917385
    3 Basque_Spanish + German_South + Hungarian + Chuvash @ 1.935394
    4 Lithuanian + German_North + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 1.955029
    5 Lithuanian + Irish + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 1.991970
    6 Lithuanian + Hungarian + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 1.992086
    7 Lithuanian + Utahn_white + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 2.005426
    8 Basque_Spanish + German_South + Croatian + Chuvash @ 2.023256
    9 Basque_Spanish + Utahn_white + Croatian + Chuvash @ 2.060626
    10 Basque_Spanish + Utahn_white + German_South + Chuvash @ 2.077467
    11 Finnish + Finnish + Spanish_Northeast + Albanian @ 2.086838
    12 Basque_Spanish + Irish + German_South + Chuvash @ 2.100093
    13 Basque_Spanish + Croatian + Croatian + Chuvash @ 2.105301
    14 Lithuanian + Basque_Spanish + Chuvash + Italian_South @ 2.110162
    15 Belarusian + German_North + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 2.118561
    16 Lithuanian + Croatian + Chuvash + Sardinian @ 2.123705
    17 Basque_Spanish + German_South + German_South + Chuvash @ 2.124767
    18 Basque_Spanish + Utahn_white + Hungarian + Chuvash @ 2.171062
    19 Finnish + Russian + Spanish_Northeast + Tuscan @ 2.173887
    20 Basque_Spanish + German_North + French + Chuvash @ 2.184382


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 51.6% Finnish + 48.4% Italian_North @ 2.32
    2 71% Mordovian + 29% Sardinian @ 2.43
    3 51.9% Russian + 48.1% Spanish_Southwest @ 2.5
    4 68.5% Russian + 31.5% Sardinian @ 2.51
    5 94.7% Utahn_white + 5.3% Nganasan @ 2.55
    6 50.4% Mordovian + 49.6% Spanish_Northeast @ 2.82
    7 58.6% Finnish + 41.4% Tuscan @ 2.85
    8 59.8% Finnish + 40.2% Italian_South @ 2.86
    9 92.8% Utahn_white + 7.2% Dolgan @ 2.88
    10 52.6% Spanish_Northeast + 47.4% Russian @ 2.88
    11 90.7% German_South + 9.3% Selkup @ 3.01
    12 94.9% English_South + 5.1% Nganasan @ 3.18
    13 94.8% German_South + 5.2% Nganasan @ 3.22
    14 66.3% Finnish + 33.7% Sicilian @ 3.23
    15 93.8% Utahn_white + 6.2% Yakut @ 3.25
    16 91.3% Utahn_white + 8.7% Selkup @ 3.25
    17 55% Mordovian + 45% Spanish_Southwest @ 3.32
    18 64.7% French + 35.3% Finnish @ 3.33
    19 66.9% French + 33.1% Russian @ 3.34
    20 50.7% Italian_North + 49.3% Russian @ 3.42

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    This population distance. How does it work really? I know it should be close to zero to represent my own genome. But can somebody please explain more?

    Thanks
    Average Fst distance to any random population is 15. That is not the furthest you can be to a population, though, obviously. Anything 5 and below you can probably pass as a native of that population.

    I would not take these calculators too seriously for several reasons but one is the reason Orcadian is popping up is because there are not enough different provincial demographic samples for the countries in question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon1 View Post
    Average Fst distance to any random population is 15. That is not the furthest you can be to a population, though, obviously. Anything 5 and below you can probably pass as a native of that population.

    I would not take these calculators too seriously for several reasons but one is the reason Orcadian is popping up is because there are not enough different provincial demographic samples for the countries in question.

    Alright. Thanks, I understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino1990 View Post
    Alright. Thanks, I understand.
    Yeah, you are welcome. Uh, just for clarification purposes I meant 15 is the average Fst distance to any random population in the world. I did not mean any random population in the limited subset of any specific calculator.

    I am not sure GEDmatch distances are Fst proper but I do know they use Fst weighting in the calculations and my statement about 5 and under still applies to GEDmatch regardless.
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