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    There is a thread called "Refugee crisis: Luxembourg warns of EU collapse and possible war " which is basically a thread to complain about the refugees or migrants or invaders in Europe. I thought we could use a general thread about illegal immigrants, sanctuary cities, and ICE in the USA. I'll try to add more news links to this thread when I come across them.

    Here are some recent headlines:

    To Protect Illegals from Deportation, Denver Decriminalizes Pooping on the Pavement
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/..._pavement.html


    Illegal immigrant from El Salvador urinating in public slashes man who objected, cops say
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/06...-cops-say.html


    Illegal alien drunk driver from Guatemala, twice deported, kills Colts football player and Uber driver.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...206-story.html


    Previously Deported Mexican National Convicted of Raping 9-Year-Old Girl in Sanctuary City
    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/...anctuary-city/


    With new year, California becomes 'sanctuary state' California became a "sanctuary state" Monday, as a bill that Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown signed into law in October officially took effect. ... The Golden State is home to an estimated 2.3 million illegal immigrants.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...ary-state.html


    Here are my thoughts. I think we should get rid of chain migration, and the visa lottery. We should make e-verify mandatory nationwide. Cut illegals off of government aid. There is already a thread about the wall so I won't discuss that here other than to say we need a strong border wall. I think all illegal aliens should be deported. I think employers who hire illegals should be fined or arrested. The mayors of sanctuary cities should be arrested. Cut off federal aid to sanctuary state California. And no amnesty.


    What are your thoughts? Have anything to add?
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    What is Trump's current position on the issue?
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    Here are my thoughts. I think we should get rid of chain migration, and the visa lottery. We should make e-verify mandatory nationwide.


    Amen to that. We should also build a wall around California.

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    How many illegal immigrants are there in the US by now? 5 years ago, I heard the official number was like 11 million, while the real number was supposed to be 30 million or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    How many illegal immigrants are there in the US by now? 5 years ago, I heard the official number was like 11 million, while the real number was supposed to be 30 million or so.
    Over 50 million in USA are Hispanics, I don't know if the illegals were included in that number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janos View Post
    What is Trump's current position on the issue?
    Last I heard, he wants a border wall, of course, and an end to chain migration.

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    How many illegal immigrants are there in the US by now? 5 years ago, I heard the official number was like 11 million, while the real number was supposed to be 30 million or so.
    That's a good question. I don't think anyone really knows. I've read 12 million and I've seen an estimate of 60 million illegals, by someone's personal opinion, not official stats. At least 30 million sounds realistic to me, but I can't say for sure.
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    There is a new headline today, from the Drudge Report.

    DHS record: Illegal immigrant deported 44 times in 15 years
    The link is from the Washington Times.
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...5-years-tops-/


    The whole article is worth reading but here are some snippets:
    He is the world’s most persistent illegal immigrant: One Mexican managed to get deported 44 times in 15 years — which means he also managed to sneak back across the border at least that many times.

    The runner-up was ousted 40 times from 2001 to 2015. No. 3, 4 and 5 on the list were deported 35, 34 and 31 times, respectively, according to data provided to The Washington Times by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    While those are the most extreme cases, repeat-illegal immigrants were back in the news this week after police said a twice-deported man was driving drunk in Indiana on Sunday morning when he plowed into pro football player Edwin Jackson and his Uber driver, killing them both.
    Chris Crane, president of the National ICE Council, which represents more than 7,500 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement employees, said what is needed is a comprehensive enforcement strategy aimed at stopping illegal immigration that targets the reasons repeat illegal immigrants are returning — such as the availability of jobs.

    “We’ve got to have E-Verify, we’ve got to have the entry-exit systems. We’ve got to have a robust interior enforcement plan, and we’ve got to quit dangling the carrot and drawing people here,” he said.
    “With the right strategy and leadership, we can stop illegal immigration, but dynamic changes are needed within ICE, and the president has to get us the enforcement elements we’re asking for in legislation,” he said.

    ICE provided the information about the five most deported illegal immigrants to The Times on the condition that it not name them specifically.

    All five were Mexican, and among them they had amassed 14 criminal convictions for illegal entry, seven for illegal re-entry, three for vehicle theft and one count of “cruelty toward wife.”
    “We’ve agreed that there is going to be border security. We’ve agreed on a number: $25 billion,” he said. “That number didn’t come from the White House. It comes from Homeland Security and the professionals on the front line. Yes. We need to repair walls. We need to build walls, but we need an awful lot of other things too.”
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    Angel Family Member on Illegal Aliens: ‘They’re Breaking the Law and We’re Supposed to Feel Sorry for Them?
    http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2018/...ed-feel-sorry/

    “I’m sick of hearing, ‘They’re looking for a better life. They’re really great people. They didn’t do anything wrong,’” said Kilborn. “Some of the local law enforcement and mayors say, ‘They didn’t break any laws.’ Excuse me, they did break a law. They’re here illegally, and if they cross the border a second time, whether seen or unseen, it’s a felony.”
    Approximately 25 American citizens are killed daily by illegal aliens, said Rep. Steve King (R-IA)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    That's a good question. I don't think anyone really knows. I've read 12 million and I've seen an estimate of 60 million illegals, by someone's personal opinion, not official stats. At least 30 million sounds realistic to me, but I can't say for sure.
    It should be more than 30 million, like I said, 5 years ago, it was common to hear the real number was 30 million, actually it was a bit more than 5 years ago, like back in 2012, 2011 or something. And I doubt the number has decreased since, or that they've all stopped crossing the border, or that they've been going back or moved to other Latin American countries.

    This could also explain Trump's victory by the way, Trump launched his campaign, the first thing he brought up was illegal immigrants from Mexico and other Latin American countries, and he called them rapists and drug dealers and so on. This is not something he could have pulled off as easily in the 90s, not just because political correctness was stronger back then, but also because there were less illegal immigrants at the time, and so the average Joe wasn't feeling the same nativist pressure and tribal instincts as the average Southerner does today. So it was a smart, strategic move of Trump, and he waited for the right moment (he didn't say anything about demographics in his Reform party campaign in the 90s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    It should be more than 30 million
    They should have expelled them decades ago, now when they are 30 millions it is impossible to deport them and Trump knew that.
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