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    Default DNA of people native to Europe's small islands

    I found a native Shetland Islander on GEDmatch. I also saw DNA results of natives from the Isle of Man. Did anybody see what do people with long-term ancestry from the following islands score?:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...slands_by_area
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Mediterranean
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...the_Baltic_Sea
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._British_Isles

    Faroe Islands
    Bornholm
    Gotland
    Åland Islands
    Saaremaa
    Rügen
    Usedom
    Fehmarn
    Sylt
    Wolin
    Outer Hebrides
    Inner Hebrides
    Islands of the Clyde
    Aran Islands
    Isles of Scilly
    Isle of Wight
    Anglesey
    Jersey
    Guernsey
    Saint-Malo
    Ushant
    Belle Île
    A Illa de Arousa
    Pantelleria
    Lampedusa
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    As for Rügen:

    The best I could find so far is a person with 37.5% of ancestry from this island (3/8 great-grandparents):


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    How about the Azores? At least the eastern islands are European islands, only Flores and Corvo are on the American plate, and even so, they are much closer to Europe. Or does it have to be islands with some kind of old native population? That would eliminate the Faroe islands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaM View Post
    How about the Azores?
    That too, but Azorean kits are easy to be found on GEDmatch. I have many Azoreans.

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    Or does it have to be islands with some kind of old native population?
    Yes, preferably. Checking DNA results of recent immigrants to these islands is pointless.

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    That would eliminate the Faroe islands.
    Why? They were settled no later than the 800s, around the same time as Madagascar or New Zealand. So they do have native inhabitants ("native" doesn't have to be "since the dawn of time"):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faroe_Islands#History

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    From "Rügen, hemogenetic study of an island population":

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14717531

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    24 haemogenetic markers (5 erythrocyte antigens, 7 polymorphisms of serum proteins, 12 polymorphisms of red cell enzymes) had been studied in 171 individuals from the island of Rügen (Germany, Baltic Sea). The cluster analysis separates clearly the Rügen sample just as the islands of Hiddensee and Ummanz from the neighbouring populations. The comparison of the data with neighboured larger populations as for instance Denmark, Hamburg or Sweden clearly results in an exceptional position of the island of Rügen. The possible reasons are discussed. (...)"

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    Shetland Islander GEDmatch kit # - M004665

    Eurogenes K15 Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 41.06
    2 Atlantic 26.31
    3 Eastern_Euro 9.98
    4 Baltic 9.89
    5 West_Med 8.73
    6 West_Asian 3.33
    7 Sub-Saharan 0.45
    8 Northeast_African 0.24

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Orcadian 3.76
    2 West_Norwegian 4.14
    3 North_Dutch 4.45
    4 Norwegian 5.05
    5 Danish 5.39
    6 West_Scottish 5.41
    7 Irish 6.2
    8 Southeast_English 6.23
    9 Southwest_English 6.38
    10 Swedish 7.09
    11 North_German 8.41
    12 West_German 9.53
    13 North_Swedish 10.56
    14 South_Dutch 10.73
    15 French 14.49
    16 East_German 15.41
    17 Southwest_Finnish 17.09
    18 Finnish 19.89
    19 Hungarian 19.91
    20 Austrian 20.45

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 53.5% Orcadian + 46.5% West_Norwegian @ 2.26
    2 63.4% West_Norwegian + 36.6% Southwest_English @ 2.3
    3 90.4% West_Norwegian + 9.6% French_Basque @ 2.47
    4 61.3% Orcadian + 38.7% Norwegian @ 2.57
    5 64.3% West_Norwegian + 35.7% Southeast_English @ 2.73
    6 88.8% West_Norwegian + 11.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.75
    7 89.9% West_Norwegian + 10.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.81
    8 89.8% West_Norwegian + 10.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.84
    9 73% Orcadian + 27% Swedish @ 2.91
    10 89.6% West_Norwegian + 10.4% Southwest_French @ 2.92
    11 61.3% West_Norwegian + 38.7% West_Scottish @ 3
    12 90.3% West_Norwegian + 9.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.01
    13 88.7% West_Norwegian + 11.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.02
    14 90.9% West_Norwegian + 9.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.02
    15 89.9% West_Norwegian + 10.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.06
    16 89.4% West_Norwegian + 10.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.06
    17 89.9% West_Norwegian + 10.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.08
    18 83.9% West_Norwegian + 16.1% French @ 3.11
    19 89.5% West_Norwegian + 10.5% Portuguese @ 3.12
    20 82.8% Orcadian + 17.2% North_Swedish @ 3.13

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    Isle of Man GEDmatch kit in Eurogenes K15:

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 32.2
    2 Atlantic 31.22
    3 Baltic 13.09
    4 West_Med 10.39
    5 West_Asian 5.84
    6 Eastern_Euro 5.78
    7 South_Asian 1.04
    8 Amerindian 0.44

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southwest_English 5.51
    2 Southeast_English 5.8
    3 Irish 5.96
    4 North_German 6.61
    5 South_Dutch 6.95
    6 West_Scottish 7.12
    7 North_Dutch 7.69
    8 Danish 8.08
    9 Orcadian 8.65
    10 West_German 10.32
    11 French 10.55
    12 Norwegian 11.49
    13 Swedish 12.1
    14 West_Norwegian 12.44
    15 East_German 12.45
    16 North_Swedish 14.74
    17 Austrian 15.7
    18 Spanish_Cataluna 16.64
    19 Southwest_Finnish 17.16
    20 Hungarian 17.29

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 78.5% North_Dutch + 21.5% French_Basque @ 4.14
    2 81.1% Irish + 18.9% Southwest_French @ 4.19
    3 82.3% North_German + 17.7% French_Basque @ 4.21
    4 82% Irish + 18% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.44
    5 85.7% Irish + 14.3% French_Basque @ 4.47
    6 84.6% Irish + 15.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.49
    7 83.9% Irish + 16.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.56
    8 83.7% Irish + 16.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.56
    9 81.7% Irish + 18.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.57
    10 83.7% Irish + 16.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.58
    11 92.3% Irish + 7.7% Sardinian @ 4.61
    12 81% Irish + 19% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.63
    13 67.8% Swedish + 32.2% French_Basque @ 4.63
    14 75% North_Dutch + 25% Southwest_French @ 4.81
    15 86.6% Irish + 13.4% North_Italian @ 4.85
    16 77.6% West_Scottish + 22.4% Southwest_French @ 4.88
    17 84.8% Irish + 15.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.9
    18 84.1% Irish + 15.9% Portuguese @ 4.91
    19 84.7% Irish + 15.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.91
    20 83.7% Irish + 16.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.94
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    Shetlandic (and Welsh) samples are now in the Global25 datasheets, if anyone's interested. Greece_Crete is also in there now.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FSz...ew?usp=sharing

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bPt...ew?usp=sharing
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    And a Gotland Islander - T964311 - but not all of his ancestry is from Gotland.

    His GEDCOM goes back to the 1500s-1700s (depending on lineage), check here:

    https://www.sendspace.com/file/c1zukc

    Eurogenes K13:

    Kit T964311

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 49.68
    2 Baltic 29.35
    3 West_Med 10.6
    4 West_Asian 5.58
    5 South_Asian 2.05
    6 Amerindian 1.02
    7 Sub-Saharan 0.62
    8 Siberian 0.53
    9 Northeast_African 0.3
    10 East_Asian 0.27

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Norwegian 2.72
    2 Swedish 3
    3 Danish 4.08
    4 North_Dutch 4.27
    5 North_German 4.98
    6 Orcadian 5.58
    7 Irish 5.81
    8 West_Scottish 6.64
    9 Southeast_English 7.81
    10 Southwest_English 8.45
    11 North_Swedish 9.12
    12 South_Dutch 11.16
    13 West_German 11.87
    14 East_German 12.88
    15 Austrian 13.66
    16 Southwest_Finnish 17.17
    17 French 17.31
    18 Hungarian 17.74
    19 South_Polish 20.72
    20 Polish 22.26

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 70.6% Swedish + 29.4% Irish @ 1.96
    2 74.3% Swedish + 25.7% West_Scottish @ 2.06
    3 81.8% Irish + 18.2% Estonian @ 2.09
    4 71.4% Swedish + 28.6% Orcadian @ 2.19
    5 98% Norwegian + 2% North_Kannadi @ 2.2
    6 62.2% Irish + 37.8% North_Swedish @ 2.2
    7 76% Irish + 24% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.21
    8 79.5% West_Scottish + 20.5% Estonian @ 2.21
    9 97.9% Norwegian + 2.1% Kanjar @ 2.21
    10 98.1% Norwegian + 1.9% Chamar @ 2.21
    11 98% Norwegian + 2% Kol @ 2.21
    12 80.9% Irish + 19.1% Finnish @ 2.21
    13 97.9% Norwegian + 2.1% Dharkar @ 2.22
    14 97.2% Norwegian + 2.8% MA-1 @ 2.22
    15 98% Norwegian + 2% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.22
    16 98.2% Norwegian + 1.8% Sakilli @ 2.23
    17 80.2% Swedish + 19.8% Southwest_English @ 2.23
    18 97.7% Norwegian + 2.3% Brahmin_UP @ 2.24
    19 98.1% Norwegian + 1.9% Dusadh @ 2.24
    20 97.8% Norwegian + 2.2% Kshatriya @ 2.24
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    Yeah I posted it on another forum, I believe some small part of his ancestry is from Småland(Kalmar country). But it's cool nonetheless.

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    These are some of the things I know about different islands...

    Pantelleria and Lampedusa: should be similar to the rest of southern Italy or close to the Maltese, but there is elevated North African affinity. I do not have GEDMatch results but I have seen their 23andme. They are basically Sicilians with even more Near Eastern and North African, and even less Northern European ancestry, than Sicily.

    Azores: Similar to continental Portuguese. Occasionally, some may have some moderate (1-3%) Sub-Saharan. The Azores is said to have Dutch input also, but I have never seen a result from there reflective of this.

    Madeira: Similar to continental Portuguese but with a consistent Sub-Saharan input of 1-5%. Ten percent of the island's population in colonial times was West African slaves from the Senegal region, and they have been fully absorbed into the population, nearly everyone has minor degrees of Sub-Saharan input.

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