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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    My origin is to the north from Kokkola and my ancestry is predominantly Finnish speaking. I am from a parish near Raahe, Brahestad in Swedish. You can't make conclusions solely based on compass points.



    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
    K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

    Kit xxxxxx

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 45.15
    2 North_Atlantic 36.24
    3 West_Med 6.65
    4 Siberian 3.9
    5 West_Asian 3.45
    6 East_Asian 1.52
    7 South_Asian 1.34
    8 Amerindian 1.24
    9 Oceanian 0.26
    10 East_Med 0.25

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southwest_Finnish 3.56
    2 Finnish 4.76
    3 Estonian 5.9
    4 Polish 8.17
    5 East_Finnish 8.35
    6 Belorussian 8.9
    7 Russian_Smolensk 9.48
    8 Estonian_Polish 9.54
    9 South_Polish 9.62
    10 Ukrainian 10.66
    11 Lithuanian 10.74
    12 North_Swedish 10.82
    13 Kargopol_Russian 10.99
    14 Southwest_Russian 11.22
    15 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.44
    16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.78
    17 La_Brana-1 13.07
    18 Erzya 14.99
    19 East_German 15.36
    20 Croatian 16.44

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 65.6% Estonian + 34.4% North_Swedish @ 1.93
    2 75.5% Estonian + 24.5% Swedish @ 2.21
    3 79.1% Southwest_Finnish + 20.9% Lithuanian @ 2.22
    4 78.6% Estonian + 21.4% Norwegian @ 2.22
    5 79.5% Estonian + 20.5% Danish @ 2.26
    6 82.1% Estonian + 17.9% West_Scottish @ 2.26
    7 81.1% Estonian + 18.9% Orcadian @ 2.28
    8 81.7% Estonian + 18.3% Irish @ 2.28
    9 66.7% Southwest_Finnish + 33.3% Estonian @ 2.3
    10 79.9% Estonian + 20.1% North_Dutch @ 2.34
    11 78.4% Estonian + 21.6% North_German @ 2.36
    12 77.9% Southwest_Finnish + 22.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.42
    13 81.8% Southwest_Finnish + 18.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.46
    14 85.5% Southwest_Finnish + 14.5% Erzya @ 2.52
    15 83% Estonian + 17% Southwest_English @ 2.52
    16 81.1% Southwest_Finnish + 18.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.54
    17 78.9% Southwest_Finnish + 21.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.58
    18 82.2% Estonian + 17.8% Southeast_English @ 2.59
    19 78% Southwest_Finnish + 22% Belorussian @ 2.62
    20 86% Finnish + 14% Irish @ 2.66
    Your Siberian levels are similar to that of Western Finns, but you don't seem to have the same affinities with Germanic groups like Western Finns usually do (I'm not claiming that they're super close to Germanics, though)? That's interesting.
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    Is that true? I have similar dreams, though about eugenics... I see images and craniums in front of me in the dreams. Words like sterilization, Germanics and others fly around as fragments in my head... scary stuff that I often dream about.

    Then I go up, and look at myself in profile and from the front and in all angles, in all my mirrors that I have mounted up everywhere, and realise my Mongolian heritage and how the Swedes view me. Sometimes I cannot see the difference between myself and a Mongol, if the environment is cloudy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Your Siberian levels are similar to that of Western Finns, but you don't seem to have the same affinities with Germanic groups like Western Finns usually do (I'm not claiming that they're super close to Germanics, though)? That's interesting.
    Yeah, I am more Estonian, which sounds weird because most of us think that Southwestern Finns are most Estonian Finns. But people are prone to think that nothing changes; that Finns are same than they were 1000 years ago, Swedes are same as 2000 years ago. This misleads us to see the history backwardly. We do it to protect our identity, because admitting that we are not same people than our Swedish, Finnish, Russian etc. ancestors would weaken our identity. It is striking among Saamis, they definitely are not same people who they were before and definitely not genetically indigenous people in Fennoscandinavia.
    Blog: http://terheninenmaa.blogspot.fi/, with essence "Believe me, or I'll nuke you".

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    I1 - Transdanubia 5000 BC

    Three simple facts about Finns:
    1. Baltic Finnic languages (including Finnish) never came from the Volga basin along with ancestors of present-day Finns.
    2. Finnish I1 (around 30% of all Finns) has Germanic roots from the late Bronze Age or the early Iron Age.
    3. As to the Finnish prehistory we have no evidences about any Iron Age (or later) east-to-west migration, but many unquestionable evidences about west-to-east migrations.

    Väinämöinen - R1a
    Lemminkäinen - I1
    Joukahainen - N

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