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    Default FBI cracks the genetic profile of a 4,000 year old Egyptian mummy (Djehutynakht)

    Unraveling the mummy’s genetic history

    Dr. Loreille’s examination also showed that Governor Djehutynakht’s DNA carried clues to another mystery. For centuries archaeologists and historians have debated the origins of the ancient Egyptians and how closely related they were to modern people living in North Africa. To the researchers’ surprise, the governor’s mitochondrial DNA indicated his ancestry on his mother’s side, or haplogroup, was Eurasian.

    “No one will ever believe us,” Dr. Loreille recalled telling her colleague Jodi Irwin. “There’s a European haplogroup in an ancient mummy.”

    Dr. Irwin, the supervisory biologist at the F.B.I.’s DNA support unit, had similar concerns. To verify the results they sent a portion of the tooth to a Harvard lab, and then to the Department of Homeland Security, for further sequencing.

    Then last year as the F.B.I. scientists worked to confirm their results, another group affiliated with the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Germany reported the first successful extraction of ancient DNA from Egyptian mummies. Their results showed that their ancient Egyptian samples were closer to modern Middle Eastern and European samples than to modern Egyptians, who have more sub-Saharan African ancestry.

    “It was at the same time ‘Dang! We’re not first,’” Dr. Loreille said. “But also we’re happy to see they had this Eurasian ancestry.”

    Alexander Peltzer, a population geneticist at the Planck Institute and an author on the first Egyptian mummy DNA paper, said Dr. Loreille’s genetic findings fit well with what his team had found.

    “Of course, one has to be careful to deduce too much from single genomes and only two locations,” he said.

    Dr. Irwin also expressed caution with how the public interprets her team’s results, saying that mitochondrial DNA provides, “just a very small glimpse into somebody’s ancestry.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/02/s...d-fbi-dna.html

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    Anyone knows which mtDNA clade Djehutynakht belonged to? Also, more details about his autosomal DNA, please, if it ever shows up in a future study. It's important to keep in mind, that Djehutynakht lived some time around the 11 or 12th dynasty (21st-20th century BCE). So it looks like @Game Theory owes me 1,000 bucks now
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    Anyone knows which mtDNA clade Djehutynakht belonged to? :
    Given limited available data and the fact that U5 is the dominant mitochondrial haplogroup found among hunter-gatherers in Europe [83,84], the recovery of a haplogroup U5b2b5 sequence from the mummy of Djehutynakht raises the question of data authenticity, despite the molecular metrics suggesting otherwise. When the mummy’s mtDNA sequence is viewed in the context of modern mtDNA diversity, however, the observed U5 lineage could potentially reflect interactions between Egypt and the Near East that date as far back as the Predynastic and Early Dynastic periods
    Only M1 and U6 are the aboriginal maternal lineages of North Africans...The maternal ancestors was a slave.
    Full Data here, no autosome:
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    U5b2b5 sounds like it could be DNA contamination or something, was that lineage even around in Egypt back then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    U5b2b5 sounds like it could be DNA contamination or something, was that lineage even around in Egypt back then?
    I know nothing of U5's phylogeny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    U5b2b5 sounds like it could be DNA contamination or something, was that lineage even around in Egypt back then?
    Yeah, integrated from the west most likely Siwa. U5 distribution in contemporary SSA is a dead giveaway. There's also a now African Paternal counterpart that highlight's U5's ancient presence.
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    Depends which prehistoric North Africa you mean. There's a preprint here saying that Neolithic North Africans (you know, the ones who replaced the hunter-gatherers there), were fully West Eurasian. Makes sense.

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/09/21/191569

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    I wonder why FBI is interogating Egyptian mummies:

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    This means Eurasian lineage was found even earlier in time than Abusir mummies.
    Btw U5 was also found in Phoenician remains so it seems it was more widespread in ancient middle east.

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    We can't say anything about their overall genetic affinity without full genome sequencing though. Ramesses III carried E1b1a, which is obviously a predominitely sub-saharan haplogroup.

    Anyway, yeah LOL..Ancient Egyptians will definitely belong overwhelmingly to the Out of Africa branch of man..in my opinion.

    It's a travesty we don't have much more ancient Egyptian full genome sequencing at this point. How the hell do we have like 60 British Bell Beaker genomes but only 3 Ancient Egyptian genomes sequenced? Ridiculous.
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    Things will pan out eventually probably by way of Sudan.

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