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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuval Levental View Post
    Many Germans in the U.S. are East Germans, who tend to have a lot of Slavic or other East Euro ancestry.
    I think you are highly mistaken. Personally I don't know a single Slav who claims to be of German ancestry in the US. Mind to enlighten me what part of the US you think this exists? I do know lots of Slavs with some German minority ancestry, but they would never ever call themselves German.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetick View Post
    I think you are highly mistaken. Personally I don't know a single Slav who claims to be of German ancestry in the US. Mind to enlighten me what part of the US you think this exists? I do know lots of Slavs with some German minority ancestry, but they would never ever call themselves German.
    I'm not talking about Slavs of German ancestry, I'm talking about East Germans of Slavic ancestry. I've seen their results on GEDmatch, Germans with all German surnames but very Slavic results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuval Levental View Post
    I'm not talking about Slavs of German ancestry, I'm talking about East Germans of Slavic ancestry. I've seen their results on GEDmatch, Germans with all German surnames but very Slavic results.
    Where in the US is this I honestly don't know anyone or ever met anyone who even claims to be Eastern German. Anyway look the German Empire map. Obviously many Germans are going to have some commonality with Slavs.

    See the maps below of the German language before WWI and after WWII. Lots of swapping...
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    Take for example this one - A682720 - a German-American from Wisconsin. Ancestral surnames of her 16 great-grandparents are all German. But her results are very Slavic. Some more examples:

    A264836 - Minnesota
    T454216 - Illinois
    T267158 - Illinois
    A245118 - Illinois
    M198371 - Pennsylvania
    M882016 - New York
    T786087 - New York
    A756176 - North Dakota
    M184647 - North Dakota
    M184759 - North Dakota
    M104708 - North Dakota
    M516503 - North Dakota
    M708454 - North Dakota
    A616801 - California
    A320374 - Wisconsin
    A264836 - Wisconsin
    T774028 - Wisconsin
    T455668 - Wisconsin
    T524416 - Wisconsin
    M141008 - Wisconsin

    I actually have over 50 of them. Many of them are in the same states where a lot of Polish-Americans live. But they are not part-Polish, they are fully German (based on their GEDCOMs etc.) - they are just East Germans who immigrated - often together with Poles - from the Kingdom of Prussia.

    So they came from eastern parts of the Reich, German-Polish borderlands.

    Quote Originally Posted by thetick View Post
    Where in the US is this I honestly don't know
    Many are in Wisconsin. But they have no Polish ancestors (based on GEDCOMs). They settled in the same area as Polish-Americans because they often immigrated on board of the same ship.
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    Ok sorry I see what you are saying. I think you should use many Eastern Germans tend to have a high Slavic ancestry. The point of confusion is most immigrants to US and this is very true of Eastern Germans tend to associate their ancestry with their native tongue.

    For example my Polish Great Great grandfather was born in 1880 Germany, spoke Polish, was Catholic and ate very Polish food. Only reason I know he was born in Germany is from his WWI draft documents and well Poland did not exist in 1880 so it was either Germany, Austria or Russia.

    East German implies the country ie the former GDR. Eastern German implies self identified ethnic Germans from the Eastern half of the German speaking Europe.

    Finally there are lots of Poles in Wisconsin. They have the largest Polish festival in the US!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Fest
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    Quote Originally Posted by tauromenion View Post
    Most of what is called "American" there is either English or Scottish. English ancestry also exists in basically all African Americans who aren't 100% SSA.
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    I would think British ancestry is most common ancestry in the U.S. A lot of Americans may have part German in them, but I don't think most of them are fully German. Like I said, I'd think British ancestry is the most common ancestry in Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuval Levental View Post
    Many Germans in the U.S. are East Germans, who tend to have a lot of Slavic or other East Euro ancestry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuval Levental View Post
    Take for example this one - A682720 - a German-American from Wisconsin. Ancestral surnames of her 16 great-grandparents are all German. But her results are very Slavic. Some more examples:

    A264836 - Minnesota
    T454216 - Illinois
    T267158 - Illinois
    A245118 - Illinois
    M198371 - Pennsylvania
    M882016 - New York
    T786087 - New York
    A756176 - North Dakota
    M184647 - North Dakota
    M184759 - North Dakota
    M104708 - North Dakota
    M516503 - North Dakota
    M708454 - North Dakota
    A616801 - California
    A320374 - Wisconsin
    A264836 - Wisconsin
    T774028 - Wisconsin
    T455668 - Wisconsin
    T524416 - Wisconsin
    M141008 - Wisconsin

    I actually have over 50 of them. Many of them are in the same states where a lot of Polish-Americans live. But they are not part-Polish, they are fully German (based on their GEDCOMs etc.) - they are just East Germans who immigrated - often together with Poles - from the Kingdom of Prussia.

    So they came from eastern parts of the Reich, German-Polish borderlands.

    Many are in Wisconsin. But they have no Polish ancestors (based on GEDCOMs). They settled in the same area as Polish-Americans because they often immigrated on board of the same ship.
    Such is modern within the last 100-150 years and irrelevant to the Germans who originally settled the Americans alongside British, French, etc. and whose names were anglicised.

    Those original Germans widely came from western Germany along the Rhine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolos View Post
    Such is modern within the last 100-150 years and irrelevant to the Germans who originally settled the Americans alongside British, French, etc. and whose names were anglicised.

    Those original Germans widely came from western Germany along the Rhine.
    Some German-Americans really do have Prussian roots though, in fact, I can remember two American ABF members with Prussian ancestry. Not saying Prussian ancestry is common in the US though, but it does exist for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolos View Post
    Those original Germans widely came from western Germany along the Rhine.
    Protestants are at least 2/3 of all German-Americans though. Catholic Germans came from western Germany along the Rhine, from South Germany (Bavaria etc.), from Sudetenland, etc. But many of Protestant Germans likely came from East Germany and from North Germany, as those were the core Protestant areas:



    After WW1 Catholic areas became Polish, here you can clearly see that East Germany was Protestant:

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