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    Quote Originally Posted by MnM View Post
    Yea the same way they broke their back in the first WW.




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    90 per cent of German losses in WW2 (who the hell mentioned WW1, asswipe) were on the Russian Front..duh.

    The Russians handed the Krauts their arses in WW2.
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    Interesting side note concerning this war - there were actually British members of the SS, who even had their own uniforms:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Amery
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Courlander
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    Hitler was as smart as some people think etc... people try to pass him off a crazy genius. He was bum before WWI then during WWI he found his purpose (mind you this is the war that was herrendous with trench warfare with what looked like craters of the moon with blood).

    1.) Hitler was a tactical novice

    2.) Herman Goerring told Hitler he would bomb Britain into submission but he was fanatically wrong , like usually, as that just stiffened the British will to fight (stiff upper lip o'l chap). The RAF made an epic comeback

    3.) Both Hitler and Goerring were drug addled

    4.)The Nazis created crystal meth now a staple drug of white trash in America

    5.) Hitler started a two war front and also declared war on America -- double whammy stupid.

    6.) Hitler made the same mistake as Napoleon when invading Russia

    8.) Alan Turing sliced through their so called sophisticated enigma machine showing all uboat communications

    9.) Hitler chased Jews out of Germany into the USA and the USA built the atomic bomb, with Jewish scientists, before Hitler got a chance to get it. Hitler told his top advisers to shift focus to things like the Messerschmicht jet planes but they never saw action all the while hoping for a a wonder weapon to arise.

    10.) Hitler refused to listen to his top generals on the Eastern front Front

    etc... etc... I go on like all night long
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garibald View Post
    Interesting side note concerning this war - there were actually British members of the SS, who even had their own uniforms:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Amery
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Courlander
    Literally 27 members. There was an equally pointless American unit. An irrelevant footnote in the pages of history and Amery ended up on the gallows.
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    Foyle's War had a fictional account of that:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    The RAF did indeed save the world but it is grossly unfair to suggest Churchill was the British resistance to the concept of German rule. It's as if you saw the Gary Oldman fictional biopic and based your opinion off that.

    Anyhow, big respect for Prince Harry, long live the Royal Family.


    Pretty sure the Red Army "saved the word".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Hades View Post


    Pretty sure the Red Army "saved the word".
    Hitler would have crushed Russia first if he did not start a two front war problem is he wanted to do it through Poland so once the krauts attacked poland Britain declared war on Germany and the German army snuck through the Belgium woods to get around the maginot line and crushed France. Both France and Poland were crushed opening a two front war.

    I am pretty sure the "Red Army" did not "save the world alone".

    The RAF made an epic comeback and bombed shit out of cities like Dresden.
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    History is always written by the winner of the war. And it is usually distorted and biased. The greatest example of that are the Romans who always distorted the results of the battles in their favor, even if they lost. They had the historians who recorded the events. This practice goes all the way back to Egyptian times. Around 1500 BC or so they had a great battle with the Hittites. The Egyptians recorded the battle as a great victory for their pharoah. It wasn't until about 40 years ago that the Hittite language was decifered. Only then did the real outcome of the battle was revealed. The Hittites won and drove the Egyptians back to their country.
    Here is an interesting video about an alternative view as to who started WWll. The Germans had a territory known as East Prussia. The Poles would not provide them with food or coal so the Germans had to ship these materials by rail. The Poles made one demand after another as to rail fees. They finally cut off access to East Prussia and that was the final event that led to the invasion of Poland. Their are other views as to the annexing of Austria and invading Chekoslovakia. The one on Poland is the most interesting , so you can skip forward to this. This is a completely different set of facts than the western view of these events.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DracoSentien View Post
    Hitler would have crushed Russia first if he did not start a two front war problem is he wanted to do it through Poland so once the krauts attacked poland Britain declared war on Germany and the German army snuck through the Belgium woods to get around the maginot line and crushed France. Both France and Poland were crushed opening a two front war.

    I am pretty sure the "Red Army" did not "save the world alone".

    The RAF made an epic comeback and bombed shit out of cities like Dresden.
    If he really wanted to he could have just crushed Britain. Opened up the Eastern front in 1942 or something.

    The "battle of Britain" was nothing even close to being a total war. It was just a skirmish.

    80% of Germany military casualties were from 1941-1945 against the Red army. All other fronts combined including 1944-1945 Western Front....and the earlier Western Front 1940 and the North African campaign all total to 20%.

    Now if you're asking me...could the Soviets have beaten the Germans with no Western allies. The answer is I don't know, I do think it's definitely possible though. They won three decisive battles from 1941-1943 (Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk) when 90% of the German Forces were still in the East. So that's pretty impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Hades View Post


    Pretty sure the Red Army "saved the word".
    Not to open up the stupid argument I had years ago but the argument wasn't being made super-seriously. That said, if we'd lost the Battle of Britain and Germany could have devoted all its resources to the Eastern Front, even Stalin's waves of frightened communists wouldn't have been able to defeat Germany and its allies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perception View Post
    History is always written by the winner of the war. And it is usually distorted and biased. The greatest example of that are the Romans who always distorted the results of the battles in their favor, even if they lost. They had the historians who recorded the events. This practice goes all the way back to Egyptian times. Around 1500 BC or so they had a great battle with the Hittites. The Egyptians recorded the battle as a great victory for their pharoah. It wasn't until about 40 years ago that the Hittite language was decifered. Only then did the real outcome of the battle was revealed. The Hittites won and drove the Egyptians back to their country.
    Here is an interesting video about an alternative view as to who started WWll. The Germans had a territory known as East Prussia. The Poles would not provide them with food or coal so the Germans had to ship these materials by rail. The Poles made one demand after another as to rail fees. They finally cut off access to East Prussia and that was the final event that led to the invasion of Poland. Their are other views as to the annexing of Austria and invading Chekoslovakia. The one on Poland is the most interesting , so you can skip forward to this. This is a completely different set of facts than the western view of these events.

    It's pretty easy to convince stupid people they're clever or common people they're elite. Just enlighten the ignorant with the gift of common knowledge and tell them nobody else knows it. Then look at their little chests puff up with pride. It's pretty easy to have them dancing to your tune after that.

    Anyhow yes all winners lie, always. The loser is always correct. The moral of the story is that you should never tell the truth because then you will lose. We must always assume what we know is false, and there is no possible ulterior motive for the people telling us to think this way - you know, to actively mistrust our elected and/or trained authorities.
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