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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioterus View Post
    Wasn't Saab doomed due to EU blocking the Volvo Trucks - Scania merger but allowaing a M.A.N. VAG merger a more or less a decade later?
    Yeah, that was weird and a clear evidence that politicians have always shown ambitions towards car makers, and not only in case of cars, also in case of other technologies, like mobile phones and network technology in USA and EU. Big countries are usually biggest crooks, the bigger the more politics in business and the less fair business.

    Btw, GM made a favor for the Finnish car industry. 220000 Porsches, mostly cabriolets, were made in Finland before MB's. Probably most exported to USA.


    GM is shit, these guys made German factories compete between each other for only the most efficient to survive. While it is capitalism, it is NOT normal on forcing this within one company, here it is freaking loyalty destroying rat race.

    I definitely aggree, they are crooks who without any rectitude. People who say that US car makers are clever businessmen are shit wrong.


    PSA is very interesting company with great, beautiful mid-range cars (Peugeot 308SW/ 3008 - are both my current crush on cars I could _potentially_ afford - else it is a car far beyond my reach - Volvo V90).
    Even in France politicians are involved to business, but not at similar level as in USA.
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    Nokia made mistakes with touch screens, but the US cell phone market was not fair before the 10s, because on the USA consumer market the phone sale was bound with operator business and consumers were not free to buy what they wanted. In other words, there was no free business and market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Nokia made mistakes with touch screens, but the US cell phone market was not fair before the 10s, because on the USA consumer market the phone sale was bound with operator business and consumers were not free to buy what they wanted. In other words, there was no free business and market.
    Isn't Nokia Indian now?
    CEO and many prominent ppl are Indian. Company is a sweatshop basically, at least it's Polish site were I worked for some time. They're a labour camp in vein of first big foreign companies installing themselves in Eastern Europe in early 1990-s, definitely no "Nordic Culture".
    But that might stem from the previous owner of this site - Alcatel-Lucent. Hmmm...

    After the sale, Nokia began to focus more extensively on its telecommunications infrastructure business and on the Internet of things, marked by the divestiture of its Here mapping division and the acquisition of Alcatel-Lucent. The company also entered virtual reality and digital health (the latter by purchasing Withings), and is the owner of scientific research organization Bell Labs. The Nokia brand has since returned to the mobile and smartphone market through a licensing arrangement with HMD Global.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioterus View Post
    Isn't Nokia Indian now?
    CEO and many prominent ppl are Indian. Company is a sweatshop basically, at least it's Polish site were I worked for some time. They're a labour camp in vein of first big foreign companies installing themselves in Eastern Europe in early 1990-s, definitely no "Nordic Culture".
    But that might stem from the previous owner of this site - Alcatel-Lucent. Hmmm...
    Nokia is still an international company and now focusing on telecom network equipments, 4G, 5G..., biggest in Europe. Buying Alcatel was an aggressive action, but it was possible in EU. It wouldn't be possible outside EU. American didn't succeed to destroy Nokia even after trying hard. International business is war. Steve Jobs stalked during the '10s Nokia's touch screen research already 5 years before the first Apple. Everyone spies everyone in international business.

    Nokia acts like any other international company, buying work from where it is inexpensive, probably now from India. Networks were the first business before phones and it is like back to basics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Nokia is still an international company and now focusing on telecom network equipments, 4G, 5G..., biggest in Europe. Buying Alcatel was an aggressive action, but it was possible in EU. It wouldn't be possible outside EU. American didn't succeed to destroy Nokia even after trying hard. International business is war. Steve Jobs stalked during the '10s Nokia's touch screen research already 5 years before the first Apple. Everyone spies everyone in international business.

    Nokia acts like any other international company, buying work from where it is inexpensive, probably now from India. Networks were the first business before phones and it is like back to basics.
    Yes, I know, I am mostly Telco experienced guy, was there as a PM with a small team, got my beef with my boss, who expected me to squeeze my subordinates to a point of total no work-life balance, to build up short-term efficiency at the cost of the long term loyalty and risking the attrition rate skyrocketing. Now I work for a real Nordic company who treats Poles equally to their Nordic employees (not in salaries which are still very good for the market, but in humane spectrum where we have a kind of positive culture shock).

    Coming back to the topic of cars.

    One of the problems, American automotive companies investing in Europe might have, is that Unions are extremely strong in Western/ Nordic Europe, so there is no fucking way to improve the efficiency, which sometimes means simply- reduce the employment. Western Automotive giants do it daily in Eastern Europe, which basically means they're fucking hypocrites to scream injustice when same happens to them, or to be less dramatic - it's good to be a metropolis but it hurts when you are a colony in turn.
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    “I go my own way. But you, you had never, until just now, looked behind you. You turned back today for the first time.”
    Geralt remained silent. Tired, he had nothing to say. “How... How will it happen?” he asked her at last, coldly and without emotion. “I will take you by the hand,” she replied, looking him straight in the eye. “I will take you by the hand and lead you across the meadow, through a cold and wet fog.” “And after? What is there beyond the fog?” “Nothing,” she replied, smiling. “After that, there is nothing.”
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