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    Default Ranking of Polish cities according to expats

    Which cities in Poland have ABF users visited or lived in?

    Do you agree with this ranking below?
    Poznań, Tri-City and Wrocław turn out to be the top rated cities in a questionnaire completed by expatriates living in Poland.

    According to the Department of Foreigners, Poland is chosen as second EU country to live in – only behind the UK. After Brexit actually takes effect, Poland is very likely to make it to the leading position. Is the country ready to receive so many foreign residents?

    We decided to check it out by asking expats from 8 Polish cities about their opinion on living in Poland. Each city is commented on in a seperate article (links below):

    Warsaw, Cracow, Tri-City, Wrocław, Poznań, Łódź, Katowice and Bydgoszcz.

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    55% of the surveyees found a job in Poland; nearly one third are students who are going to spend here the next few years or months at least (till the end of the academic term/year). Every tenth respondent is self-employed. Others are still trying their luck at local job markets or live off their family members.

    Most of the foreigners questioned (57%) have lived in Poland for at least a couple of years; the others arrived here quite recently (about a year ago). The vast majority of them declare they will get back to their home countries once the academic year finishes or their employment contracts terminate.

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    Why Poland?

    Since for almost 57% of the respondents Poland is the very first foreign living experience, they took into account the standards they know from their home countries while rating the Polish cities. Every second foreign resident came here following a potential job opportunity, yet as many as 43% admitted that Poland is another place on the map which can become their new home.

    As far as the job market is concerned, from the Ministry of Family Labour and Social Policy’s reports, a bit more than 270 thousand foreigners applied for a work permit last year. It’s no wonder, actually – Polish companies are developing rapidly and some of them are getting understaffed. Also, big international brands are opening up their offices in such cities like Warsaw, Cracow or Wrocław, which means a lot of new job opportunities for foreigners arise. Last, but not least, there is a growing market of temporary or seasonal jobs as well.

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    Here is how individual cities fared:

    Poznań: https://www.morizon.pl/blog/foreigners-in-poznan/

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    Tri-City: https://www.morizon.pl/blog/foreigners-in-tricity/

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    Wrocław: https://www.morizon.pl/blog/foreigners-in-wroclaw/

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    https://www.morizon.pl/blog/wp-conte...claw_oceny.jpg

    Warsaw: https://www.morizon.pl/blog/foreigners-in-warsaw/

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    Cracow: https://www.morizon.pl/blog/foreigners-in-cracow/

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    https://www.morizon.pl/blog/wp-conte...akow_oceny.jpg

    Katowice: https://www.morizon.pl/blog/foreigners-in-katowice/

    Łódź: https://www.morizon.pl/blog/foreigners-in-lodz/

    Bydgoszcz: https://www.morizon.pl/blog/foreigners-in-bydgoszcz/

    https://www.quora.com/How-friendly-a...-to-foreigners

    https://www.morizon.pl/blog/foreigners-in-poland/

    Summary:

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    Łódź, Bydzia and Wrocek seem to be the sore losers. Łódź seems like the worst piece of crap, while Bydgoszcz and Wrocław have nothing really interesting within them beside being boring (Bydgoszcz) or expensive (Wrocław).

    I do wonder how many of the "competition" the interviewees have actually seen to compare? I do not believe Wrocław is so bad neither Tricity is more expensive to Warsaw (I call bullshit on that actually - you can rent a flat cheaper and do not need so much time to commute here versus Warsaw).

    You can download IT salaries report from here - you need to provide and e-mail address first.

    If I remember the numbers well, there is basically no difference in IT salaries between Tricity and Warsaw while the costs of living and average commute times are vastly different.
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    Is Łódź really that terrible of a city?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Is Łódź really that terrible of a city?
    I have never been there, yet from what I have heard it is basically one main street (Piotrkowska) and concrete sleeping villages all around, I bet Bydgoszcz can compete on that with Łódź, I actually worked and lived in Bydgoszcz for 6 months... apart of "old town" which is actually quite nice, the rest is terrible.
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    “We know each other,” he agreed. “They say that you follow in my steps.”
    “I go my own way. But you, you had never, until just now, looked behind you. You turned back today for the first time.”
    Geralt remained silent. Tired, he had nothing to say. “How... How will it happen?” he asked her at last, coldly and without emotion. “I will take you by the hand,” she replied, looking him straight in the eye. “I will take you by the hand and lead you across the meadow, through a cold and wet fog.” “And after? What is there beyond the fog?” “Nothing,” she replied, smiling. “After that, there is nothing.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioterus View Post
    (...)neither Tricity is more expensive to Warsaw (I call bullshit on that actually - you can rent a flat cheaper and do not need so much time to commute here versus Warsaw).
    (...)
    If I remember the numbers well, there is basically no difference in IT salaries between Tricity and Warsaw while the costs of living and average commute times are vastly different.
    Heh, I was wrong, it seems Gdańsk/ Tricity (Trójmiasto) pays best in Poland in terms of Contract of Employment and same as Poznań in terms of B2B contracts.

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    “We know each other,” he agreed. “They say that you follow in my steps.”
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    Geralt remained silent. Tired, he had nothing to say. “How... How will it happen?” he asked her at last, coldly and without emotion. “I will take you by the hand,” she replied, looking him straight in the eye. “I will take you by the hand and lead you across the meadow, through a cold and wet fog.” “And after? What is there beyond the fog?” “Nothing,” she replied, smiling. “After that, there is nothing.”
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