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    Default Who were the best classical composers: Germans or Italians?

    Were the germans better composers than the italians or vice versa?

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    Impossible to answer, it depends on a lot of things and the period. Do you mean the actual classical period, or just classical music in general? What about Austrians?

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    Germans hands down. Mozart and Beethoven alone > anything to come out of Italy.
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    Italians definitely very good at opera though (which they invented)

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    Anything music related zee Germans will win hands down.

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    Italian opera is absolute perfection:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason1234 View Post
    Italian opera is absolute perfection:

    Hmm that sounds ghey lol.

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    On topic: Bach, Beethoven, Mozart and a few minor composers easily beat Italy

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    Listen to the ending of the first movement of Bruckner's 7th symphony.

    If that doesn't tear your heart out of your chest, then you don't have a European soul (or at least not a Northern European soul).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisitorz View Post
    Hmm that sounds ghey lol
    Are you retarded?

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    For Classical period, Mozart takes it all:

    The best-known composers from this period are Joseph Haydn, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Ludwig van Beethoven, and Franz Schubert; other notable names include Luigi Boccherini, Muzio Clementi, Antonio Salieri, Leopold Mozart, Johann Christian Bach, Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach, and Christoph Willibald Gluck. Ludwig van Beethoven is regarded either as a Romantic composer or a Classical period composer who was part of the transition to the Romantic era. Franz Schubert is also a transitional figure, as were Johann Nepomuk Hummel, Luigi Cherubini, Gaspare Spontini, Gioachino Rossini, and Carl Maria von Weber. The period is sometimes referred to as the era of Viennese Classic or Classicism (German: Wiener Klassik), since Gluck, Mozart, Haydn, Salieri, Schubert, and Beethoven all worked in Vienna.
    For the Romantic period, the competition is much tougher and they lack the unparalelled genius of Mozart to get easily outclassed. I would have hard time picking one. It is obvious Chopin has his special treatment, yet he is mostly a pianist and piano composer, so he cannot compete in all the musical fields.

    In the Romantic period, music became more explicitly expressive and programmatic, dealing with the literary, artistic, and philosophical themes of the time. Famous early Romantic composers include Beethoven (whose works span both this period and the preceding Classical period), Schubert, Schumann, Chopin, Mendelssohn, Bellini, and Berlioz. The late 19th century saw a dramatic expansion in the size of the orchestra and in the dynamic range and diversity of instruments used in this ensemble. Also, public concerts became a key part of urban middle class society, in contrast to earlier periods, when concerts were mainly paid for by and performed for aristocrats. Famous composers from the second half of the century include Bruckner, Johann Strauss II, Brahms, Liszt, Tchaikovsky, Dvořák, Verdi, and Wagner. Between 1890 and 1910, a third wave of composers including Mahler, Richard Strauss, Puccini, and Sibelius built on the work of middle Romantic composers to create even more complex – and often much longer – musical works. A prominent mark of late-19th-century music is its nationalistic fervor, as exemplified by such figures as Dvořák, Sibelius, and Grieg. Other prominent late-century figures include Saint-Saëns, Fauré, Rachmaninoff and Franck.
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