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    Quote Originally Posted by El Andullero View Post
    As far as I am concerned, HarappaWorld worked best for me, and that's because they use New World populations. Might be exactly what you are needing for all we know.
    aight, i gone and check it out


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Euro 36.82
    2 W-African 24.65
    3 Mediterranean 20.19
    4 Baloch 5.83
    5 Caucasian 4.67
    6 SW-Asian 2.43
    7 American 1.97
    8 San 1.31


    Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
    16 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 dominican_bryc @ 25.925671
    2 puerto-rican_bryc @ 26.984097
    3 hungarian_behar @ 29.662003
    4 puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 29.777899
    5 slovenian_xing @ 30.098854
    6 french_hgdp @ 30.640610
    7 n-european_xing @ 30.786127
    8 utahn-white_1000genomes @ 31.270639
    9 utahn-white_hapmap @ 31.574865
    10 serbian_harappa @ 31.648424
    11 british_1000genomes @ 32.079987
    12 romanian-a_behar @ 32.768669
    13 orcadian_hgdp @ 33.075695
    14 ukranian_yunusbayev @ 33.943768
    15 bulgarian_yunusbayev @ 34.520512
    16 spaniard_behar @ 35.271328
    17 spaniard_1000genomes @ 35.725689
    18 italian_hgdp @ 35.761913
    19 chuvash_behar @ 36.034225
    20 mordovian_yunusbayev @ 36.170647

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% dominican_bryc +50% ukranian_yunusbayev @ 8.062144

    Using 4 populations approximation:
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    1 african-caribbean_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + n-european_xing + puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 2.533437
    2 african-caribbean_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + puerto-rican_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 2.669143
    3 african-caribbean_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + puerto-rican_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 2.810941
    4 lithuanian_behar + mandenka_hgdp + puerto-rican_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 2.864836
    5 lithuanian_behar + mandenka_hgdp + n-european_xing + puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 2.879392
    6 african-caribbean_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 3.046137
    7 lithuanian_behar + mandenka_hgdp + puerto-rican_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 3.084321
    8 igbo_henn2012 + lithuanian_behar + puerto-rican_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 3.109710
    9 african-caribbean_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + puerto-rican_bryc + utahn-white_hapmap @ 3.117413
    10 igbo_henn2012 + lithuanian_behar + n-european_xing + puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 3.122267
    11 hausa_henn2012 + lithuanian_behar + puerto-rican_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 3.172148
    12 african-caribbean_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + n-european_xing + puerto-rican_bryc @ 3.175505
    13 hausa_henn2012 + lithuanian_behar + n-european_xing + puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 3.177346
    14 african-caribbean_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 3.187767
    15 brong_henn2012 + lithuanian_behar + puerto-rican_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 3.190105
    16 british_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + mandenka_hgdp + puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 3.195117
    17 lithuanian_behar + mandenka_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 3.198079
    18 african-caribbean_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + puerto-rican_bryc + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 3.211536
    19 brong_henn2012 + lithuanian_behar + n-european_xing + puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 3.213525
    20 brong_henn2012 + n-european_xing + russian_hgdp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 3.214597

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 65.6% n-european (xing) + 34.4% african-american (1000genomes) @ 3.33
    2 72.5% n-european (xing) + 27.5% mandenka (hgdp) @ 3.49
    3 70.2% n-european (xing) + 29.8% african-caribbean (1000genomes) @ 3.62
    4 73.4% n-european (xing) + 26.6% brong (henn2012) @ 3.76
    5 73.2% n-european (xing) + 26.8% igbo (henn2012) @ 3.76
    6 72.8% n-european (xing) + 27.2% hausa (henn2012) @ 3.84
    7 73.3% n-european (xing) + 26.7% bambaran (xing) @ 3.86
    8 73.6% n-european (xing) + 26.4% dogon (xing) @ 3.94
    9 71.7% n-european (xing) + 28.3% bamoun (henn2012) @ 4.01
    10 74.1% n-european (xing) + 25.9% yoruba (1000genomes) @ 4.16
    11 62.7% dominican (bryc) + 37.3% lithuanian (behar) @ 4.2
    12 72.1% utahn-white (hapmap) + 27.9% mandenka (hgdp) @ 4.3



    ^ also dis what i mean with the "Gedmatch effect" as imma call it now. it magically transforms my horner ancestry into SW asian, baloch, caucasus, and prolly some in the mediterranean aswell and only gives me 25% african.


    i find the mixed oracles to be quite weird. not because it gives me 72% european, well partially perhaps. but where did my MENA components and asian components go? xD

    if i substract all my non-european components from my euro 1st mixed oracle we get 48.82% european lol


    idk, alot of mixed oracles do this to me. I usually score 63-70% euro infact because they consider MENA to be part of european genetics i suppose.


    eitherway its a very cool calculator, i like the fact that they managed to intepret part of my ancestry as "African-Caribbean" thats really cool tbh
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    ^ (near eastern = ethiopian + european)

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    Yemeni, you're a quadroon. GEDmatch sometimes gives you more African in Oracles because a lot of African groups have Caucasoid admixture.

    For example - 1 65.6% n-european (xing) + 34.4% african-american (1000genomes) @ 3.33

    African-Americans are already 20% White, so .2*34.4=6.9

    So you're actually a genetic distance of 3.33 from a hypothetical person who is 72.5% European, 27.5% African

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Yemeni, you're a quadroon. GEDmatch sometimes gives you more African in Oracles because a lot of African groups have Caucasoid admixture.

    For example - 1 65.6% n-european (xing) + 34.4% african-american (1000genomes) @ 3.33

    African-Americans are already 20% White, so .2*34.4=6.9

    So you're actually a genetic distance of 3.33 from a hypothetical person who is 72.5% European, 27.5% African

    and how? remove my mena components from my overal european percentage in mixed oracle and you can easily see that i am not a quadroon.

    this is one of the reasons i am glad i got permabanned from TA forever. yall retarded as hell.

    the reason i get rendered as 70% european is because my west asian/sw asian components are almost exactly insync with that of what a european would score. but infact my MENA components are not part of my european ancestry but gedmatch doesnt differentiate.

    i dont use gedmatch anymore because its a good ol' unreliable to me.


    check out my genomebox results or xcode results if you are truly interested in my ethnic breakdown. yet you guys fail to understand that its virtually impossible for my moms family to be 40%> european with only 1 european grandparent (in their case) hes my great grandparent.

    according to tests that are more reliable to me than gedmatch (because they use actual good african populations and include ethiopian populations) you can see that i am only 42-54% european, no less, no more.











    im just flexing on you dumb TA bitches because yall cant stand the fact that i am not your average quadroon.


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    human species first reached the Middle
    East and populated this region. The
    migrations to the Middle East was not
    one way, rather, there were several back
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    this is what i found on my mtDNA haplogroup:





    "Haplogroup L3 is confined to Africa and emigrant African populations. It is most common in East Africa."

    "Haplogroup L3 occurs only in Africa, but on that continent its derivatives are found nearly everywhere. L3's subclades are most prevalent in East Africa."

    thats quite weird that means my mum's mum's mum's etc etc etc originated in East africa? so that means on my maternal line i probably have sudanese or ethiopian ancestry. thats very interesting tbh, then again it does make sense as it has already been confirmed that my east african origins are Oromo ethiopian. I could also possibly have Eastern Bantu influence for all i know but i have no evidence or proof to back this up so ill just leave it be.
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    ^ Dude stop it . YOU ARE NOT L3!

    Your maternal lineage is super rare.
    If it is what it is its probably the rarest African lineage tested in a consumer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beyoku View Post
    ^ Dude stop it . YOU ARE NOT L3!

    Your maternal lineage is super rare.
    If it is what it is its probably the rarest African lineage tested in a consumer.
    lol, how is it even possible? im still not sure how reliable wegene is since its a test made primarily for east asians/chinese. their mtDNA reading could be right, but it could be horribly wrong aswell.

    in this case Xcode Life 2.0 seems more professional because it offers more information on the haplogroup.

    if i actually am L1'2'3'4'5'6 where would my african origins even be? In the San people??? Since it says i share the same mtDNA haplogroup with Nelson Mandela... I find that quite hard to believe

    (even though some of my family members do look a bit south african..) however to add up on that calcs only give me like 1-3% San at max, i dont think its super reliable.


    even so, where would my lineage be from in africa IF it was L1? Southeast?
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    I dont know where your maternal ancestor is from.
    That lineage could have originated anywhere. Based on the assumption that your maternal ancestor is descendants of enslaved folk it would be "West African" just like my Maternal lineage is recently "West African" even though it is East African in phylogeny.
    Check out this link. and download the Supp file. WHen you look at that file you can see the relation of L3 and your L1'2'3'4'5'6 lineage at the top. You can see how the sublineages are spread all across the continent. You should reach out to a place that does MTDNA Testing and ask them because your stuff is so rare if you can get some free analysis.

    Your lineage is rare like this dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beyoku View Post
    I dont know where your maternal ancestor is from.
    That lineage could have originated anywhere. Based on the assumption that your maternal ancestor is descendants of enslaved folk it would be "West African" just like my Maternal lineage is recently "West African" even though it is East African in phylogeny.
    Check out this link. and download the Supp file. WHen you look at that file you can see the relation of L3 and your L1'2'3'4'5'6 lineage at the top. You can see how the sublineages are spread all across the continent. You should reach out to a place that does MTDNA Testing and ask them because your stuff is so rare if you can get some free analysis.

    Your lineage is rare like this dude.
    yeah ok i guess your right.

    damn, on one side its cool being mixed and having a rare haplogroup, on the otherside its damn right fucktup cuz nobody knows anything about it XD i guess my lineage is just unique. guess it explains why my family looks so weird including me LOL

    my mom was 70-80% african genetically, 8-14% Dutch, and 4% amerindian and she had straight wavy hair naturally, imagine that.

    then we have my aunt, who is medium brown in skintone, has a broader nose, broader face, meso-brachycephalic, and a shorter stature/face. but she had afro-curly hair while my mom didnt LOL.

    And yes, it could definitely be west african but im not certain about that. What i do know is that my surname is Ghanaian in origin from the "Ewe" Tribe, and it means "Born on Friday"

    so maybe it originated from the Togo/Ghana region.


    and aight, ill check that out soon. Its still cool that i am this mixed and are in possession of such a rare haplogroup, never imagined LOL

    also, ill put this in a spoiler cuz otherwise the post gon be TOO long:

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    if i can ask you. Do you mind to post your own "MyGenomeBox" results on this thread and share it with me? no particular reason but my curiosity.

    Im basically on a quest to find out whether their African component includes Ethiopian, Moroccan, and other african regional populations like southern african and central african etc.

    and i want to know whether their test overestimates or underestimates african ancestry.


    Because ppl with no to minor african ancestry score roughly what they should score. However, Gedmatch tests give me usually only 23-28% Subsaharan african, and lesser MENA components. Genomebox gives me 36% black african, and 6% arab/north african.

    and Xcode life gives me 24% SSA, and 17% MENA/Ethiopian. which is quite weird, makes me suspect that genomebox includes ethiopia in their african samples?

    what do you think bro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhalasi View Post
    yeah ok i guess your right.

    damn, on one side its cool being mixed and having a rare haplogroup, on the otherside its damn right fucktup cuz nobody knows anything about it XD i guess my lineage is just unique. guess it explains why my family looks so weird including me LOL

    my mom was 70-80% african genetically, 8-14% Dutch, and 4% amerindian and she had straight wavy hair naturally, imagine that.

    then we have my aunt, who is medium brown in skintone, has a broader nose, broader face, meso-brachycephalic, and a shorter stature/face. but she had afro-curly hair while my mom didnt LOL.

    And yes, it could definitely be west african but im not certain about that. What i do know is that my surname is Ghanaian in origin from the "Ewe" Tribe, and it means "Born on Friday"

    so maybe it originated from the Togo/Ghana region.


    and aight, ill check that out soon. Its still cool that i am this mixed and are in possession of such a rare haplogroup, never imagined LOL

    also, ill put this in a spoiler cuz otherwise the post gon be TOO long:

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    if i can ask you. Do you mind to post your own "MyGenomeBox" results on this thread and share it with me? no particular reason but my curiosity.

    Im basically on a quest to find out whether their African component includes Ethiopian, Moroccan, and other african regional populations like southern african and central african etc.

    and i want to know whether their test overestimates or underestimates african ancestry.


    Because ppl with no to minor african ancestry score roughly what they should score. However, Gedmatch tests give me usually only 23-28% Subsaharan african, and lesser MENA components. Genomebox gives me 36% black african, and 6% arab/north african.

    and Xcode life gives me 24% SSA, and 17% MENA/Ethiopian. which is quite weird, makes me suspect that genomebox includes ethiopia in their african samples?

    what do you think bro?
    Do you know your late mother's (or by default, her brother's) admixture numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Andullero View Post
    Do you know your late mother's (or by default, her brother's) admixture numbers?
    im not sure, but im going by my percentages.

    if i am 36% black african lets say, then she would be roughly 72% black african/ethiopian.

    same way as i am 6% maghrebi shes probably roughly 12%.


    and no, i have no clue but i do know that my uncle is by far the most african looking person in my family, aside from my grandpa but hes deceased.


    I think he could EASILY be in the 85% black african range, he probably inherited more SSA genes than the rest, along with my mom in some aspects.
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