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  • Yes definitely, a Mandinka shares nothing with a Yoruba, and a Yoruba nothing with a Kikuyu.

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  • Yeah, they are sorta distinct from eachother but not too extreme.

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  • Im not sure, idk

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  • Nope, all black africans are 100% genetically related

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Thread: Are Black Africans really genetically very distinct from one another if they are from different tribes?262 days old

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    Default Are Black Africans really genetically very distinct from one another if they are from different tribes?

    Like for example, a specific ethnicity test has a african catagory, but the only reference samples are Yoruba, and Igbo. But matter of fact is, you are Kikuyu Kenyan! will you still score the same amount of african as you truly are? or will your african score be diluted/split between other ethnicities?

    cuz i read something on this website:



    "Africa has 3000 distinct ethnic groups, 2000 languages. Home to the most genetically diverse people on Earth. So diverse that two Africans are more genetically different from each other than a Chinese and a European are from each other."


    what do you think? personally i believe the fact that if a test doesnt have your specific tribe or african ethnicity that your results will be skewed because your african doesnt match their data samples.
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    also another quote from that website:

    "There is more genetic diversity between different African people than between all the races of the world combined. So the difference between Asian and European is less than between Amhara and Hausa."

    ^ jesus christ, if thats actually true lol, dats crazy
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    This is often stated by certain people however I personally disagree. I find it extremely hard to believe that for example that someone from the Arbore Tribe is completely distinct from someone of the Fon Tribe on the other side of the continent, yet a pale white Western European is somehow genetically consistent with a brown skinned Hindustani living all the way in Central Asia. I take the position that there are some purposely biased interpretations with some of this, especially with the whole East Africa vs West Africa feud. That division is NOT imposed on no other group of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strong Flower View Post
    This is often stated by certain people however I personally disagree. I find it extremely hard to believe that for example that someone from the Arbore Tribe is completely distinct from someone of the Fon Tribe on the other side of the continent, yet a pale white Western European is somehow genetically consistent with a brown skinned Hindustani living all the way in Central Asia. I take the position that there are some purposely biased interpretations with some of this, especially with the whole East Africa vs West Africa feud. That division is NOT imposed on no other group of people.
    well i believe that ethnicities/tribes in west africa are distinct from eachother, but not as distinct as a Oromo or Amhara compared to a Mandinka or a Brong for example. Amhara's and brong share no similarities genetically because they are different types of African (West african VS Kushitic) so yeah

    however yeah, i do believe europeans are closer to turks, west asians, and other types of shit than west africans are to east africans and nilotes for example.

    tbh, europeans arent diverse at all. everyone in NW europe is basically genetically indistinguishable, same goes for european ethnicities in central europe, the balkans, and slavic countries lmao.

    all slavs are genetically similar to eachother, so are balkans similar to eachother, central europeans etc etc

    and africa having a total of 2000 ethnicities of sorts i can imagine that they are more distinct from eachother.
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    There is not much genetic diversity between pure black africans.The only call it the most diverse continent because they have to take into account those groups who are primarily of Eurasian origin or significant Eurasian blood that exist on the continent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meygaag View Post
    There is not much genetic diversity between pure black africans.The only call it the most diverse continent because they have to take into account those groups who are primarily of Eurasian origin or significant Eurasian blood that exist on the continent.
    This is patently false. Please do some research into how long African populations have been around compared to extremtly bottle-necked Eurasians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beyoku View Post
    This is patently false. Please do some research into how long African populations have been around compared to extremtly bottle-necked Eurasians.
    A simple look at a pca plot will prove you wrong



    African diversity is thanks to Eurasian/North African men.It's absurd to believe that a Madinka and Yoruba are far more distant to each other compared to a Bedouin and the Japanese
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    The genetic diversity is much more blatant outside of West Africa.

    For example, there is strong divergence between and amongst hunter-gatherer Africans and all other humans, as well as most Niger-Kordofanians compared to most Nilo-Saharans, etc... Tanzania, Kenya and Ethiopia are definitely genetic diversity hotspots (even when you eliminate Eurasian admixture).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgbk87 View Post
    The genetic diversity is much more blatant outside of West Africa.

    For example, there is strong divergence between and amongst hunter-gatherer Africans and all other humans, most Niger-Kordofanians and most Nilo-Saharans, etc... Tanzania, Kenya and Ethiopia are definitely genetic diversity hotspots (even when you eliminate Eurasian admixture).
    I understand that Southern Ethiopia,Kenya and Tanzania with the South East African hunter gatherers,Mota and Ancient East African peaking in South Sudanese populations are very diverse but are those areas more diverse than the populations living on the Eurasian landmass?

    From what I seen thats seems highly unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meygaag View Post
    A simple look at a pca plot will prove you wrong



    African diversity is thanks to Eurasian/North African men.It's absurd to believe that a Madinka and Yoruba are far more distant to each other compared to a Bedouin and the Japanese
    Compare the distance of distance from Khoisan to Yoruba to the distance of ALL those Eurasians.

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