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    Default Black and Latino Gangs in the 70's used Nazi insignia

    Specifically in the south Bronx, NYC. What makes even more strange is that this is the same generation that gave birth to hip hop







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    Strange isn't it? Did they actually know what these symbols meant? Could this also be a dirty secret about Hip Hop history?

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    that video I posted is a documentary from the late seventies that follows two of these gangs, Swastika's, SS symbols and mention of a Gestapo division are found throughout

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    These are mostly biker gangs. The Black Spades are Hells Angels affiliated.

    Nazi insignia has always been common in biker gangs.

    But for most bikers, Nazi iconography has less to do with supporting Nazi ideology than wanting to piss people off, says Barker. Modern American motorcycle gangs started in the late 1940s and early 1950s, just after veterans of World War II brought home iron crosses and other trophies. “One-percenters“—so named in response to the claim that 99 percent of bikers are law-abiding—adopted the Nazi insignia as a form of patriotic rebellion: By using it, they showed their love of country (we defeated the Nazis) and their indifference toward their countrymen (they know it makes you uncomfortable). “This stuff—iron crosses, the Nazi insignia, the German helmets—that’s to shock people. To let them know we’re individualists,” Hells Angels icon Sonny Barger told the Los Angeles Times in the 1960s. “If a Hells Angels guy is wearing Nazi paraphernalia, it’s basically their equivalent of sticking up a finger to some middle class family they see in a Volvo,” says Julian Sher, a Globe and Mail correspondent and co-author of Angels of Death: Inside the Biker Gangs’ Global Crime Empire.

    In Hell’s Angels, Thompson argues the paraphernalia was mostly to épater le bourgeoisie: “They insist and seem to believe that their swastika fetish is no more than an antisocial joke, a guaranteed gimmick to bug the squares, the taxpayers—all those they spitefully refer to as ‘citizens.’ … If they wanted to be artful about bugging the squares they would drop the swastika and decorate their bikes with the hammer and sickle.”
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    I know these gangs were inspired by the Hells Angels and other biker groups, but even still, seems strange that a black nationalist gang like the Black Spades would carry Nazi insignia. The Hells Angels never had any "Gestapo units", were they trying to achieve something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostface View Post
    I know these gangs were inspired by the Hells Angels and other biker groups, but even still, seems strange that a black nationalist gang like the Black Spades would carry Nazi insignia. The Hells Angels never had any "Gestapo units", were they trying to achieve something?
    They were just trying to piss people off, pretty much.

    And remember, the Hells Angels were founded by WWII vets, a lot of whom took Nazi insignia home as trophies. They were originally disaffected vets, felt like the country they served rejected them when they came home, and part of it was to rub it in their face... to say "We beat the Nazis, and you turned your backs on us!" kind of deal.
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    well I also read that they used these colors to promote fear in the elderly Jewish population that lived in the south Bronx at that time. The majority of the Jewish and other European population had moved out by then but that one of the main sources of incomes for these gangs was doing "crib jobs", which meant doing home invasions of elderly and defenseless people who were the remaining white demographic in the south Bronx then. And, that was part of the reason that they used Nazi insignia, many of the elderly folk were Jewish
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