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    Quote Originally Posted by Selva175 View Post
    It can diversify music but also set very low standards for what is considered "creative"... take this shit here for instance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azvarohi View Post
    His pants are ripped, poor thing. Hopefully he'll earn enough for a new pair of non-ripped pants!
    Oh he's made it to the top with Old Town Road. Pretty sure he can afford to flaunt his Gucci boxers now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Hand View Post
    Hip Hop reached it's zenith during the 1990s. The NY 'Boom Bap' with it's dark xylophone percussions can't be topped.
    This guy discusses and pretty much defines boom bap
    Pete Rock remixes a quintessential 1990s boom bap. Bring back it back I'll say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selva175 View Post
    Quantized beats/loops were used way back in the 80's and there's not much difference in how they are used now.
    With the exception of bad hair days, everything was done better in the 80s.

    Quote Originally Posted by Selva175 View Post
    Just more accessible through computers, but there's more "refinement" now in the way big producers compile digital instruments or samples.
    Computers are the problem; computers ruined music. And films too. Back in the 80s they still didn't use computers when they made music and films. I'm not saying computers can't offer any improvements to music and film, but they're really overusing computers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Selva175 View Post
    It's very easy for the average person to create a track on their own, that's for sure.
    Yeah, and that's one of the many problems with modern music. It's no coincidence that modern music sounds so mediocre.

    Quote Originally Posted by Selva175 View Post
    It can diversify music but also set very low standards for what is considered "creative"... take this shit here for instance

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bsZCFj6cVY
    Yeah, that's clearly IQ 80 "music".
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    With the exception of bad hair days, everything was done better in the 80s.
    LOL what? The 80s had to have been one of the worst decades for music. Cheap MOOG keyboards and too much cocaine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    LOL what? The 80s had to have been one of the worst decades for music. Cheap MOOG keyboards and too much cocaine.
    Are you serious? The 80s pumped out the best music ever. Yeah they used a lot of keyboards/synths back then, but how is that a bad thing? They did it well and keyboard sounds great when done right. More importantly, they really sang with passion and from the heart.

    When was the last time you heard songs like this? All songs from 89:

    Robin Beck - Save Up All Your Tears (1989):


    Alannah Myles - Black Velvet:


    Good Girls Go To Heaven (Bad Girls Go Everywhere) - Pandora's Box:


    ^^ That's real music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post

    Yeah, and that's one of the many problems with modern music. It's no coincidence that modern music sounds so mediocre.
    The democratization of any medium makes for it to go to the crapper, bottomline. Or at least it makes it harder for one to find the real gems, if they are to be found.

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    I still remember my Lupe adolescent days, too bad he's proven to be an idiot outside of music lol.





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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    Are you serious? The 80s pumped out the best music ever. Yeah they used a lot of keyboards/synths back then, but how is that a bad thing? They did it well and keyboard sounds great when done right. More importantly, they really sang with passion and from the heart.

    When was the last time you heard songs like this? All songs from 89:

    Robin Beck - Save Up All Your Tears (1989):


    Alannah Myles - Black Velvet:


    Good Girls Go To Heaven (Bad Girls Go Everywhere) - Pandora's Box:


    ^^ That's real music.
    Not my thing, I prefer music from the 90s.

    Though I listen to Black Velvet now and love it, I guess reminds me of my childhood. But back in 1989 it was so overplayed on the radio.

    That and this song, so typical 80s



    Most 80s music is objectively bad. I only like it now because it reminds me of my childhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    Not my thing
    Did you even listen to the two other songs? I find that hard to believe. Here's another 80s classic which you probably won't like, but it's from a Coca Cola commercial:

    Robin Beck - The First Time (Official Music Video):


    ^^ A fucking Coca Cola commercial had this awesome music Unbelievable!

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    I prefer music from the 90s.
    There's definitely a lot of good songs from the 90s, especially the early 90s which was still heavily 80s influenced (and in fact, many early 90s songs were composed during the 80s, so they still contained a lot of that 80s magic). An example of that is this enchanting song from 92:

    Tasmin.Archer -Sleeping Satellite:


    But overall, I wouldn't say the 90s was better than the 80s, music-wise, doesn't even come close. But 90s music was far better than the generic dumbed down iCrap released today.

    The 90s was clearly the decade when music began going downhill, because that's the decade when computer software became advanced enough to compose and edit music on, and as a result of that, the 90s is the decade when the record labels began to iPhone master the music. This blog post describes the iPhone mastering process quite well:

    Historically, most decisions related to mass-marketed recordings were based on consumer convenience and higher profits, rather than technical advantages and higher fidelity.

    ...

    Even though many recordings are advertised as being 24-bit, all 24 bits of dynamic range were only used in the recording studio to reduce quantization noise. The consumer version of most so-called 24-bit recordings are mastered with the dynamic range of or less than a 16-bit recording (96dB). They simply fill some of the MSB with 1s and some of the LSBs with 0s to pad the overall volume up to the target level.

    Most pop music recordings are engineered to sound best on a car stereo or portable device as opposed to on a high-end audiophile system. It’s a well-known fact that artists and producers will often listen to tracks on an MP3 player or car stereo before approving the final mix.
    https://www.mojo-audio.com/blog/dsd-...myth-vs-truth/

    This iPhone process is also known as "the loudness war":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

    ^^ Loudness war is basically compressing the music to the point that it sounds really loud on shitty devices like the iPhone. While iPhone mastering was introduced in the 90s (like around 95), it's from around 2001 or so, when they really began destroying the music with iPhone mastering on a large scale. Spotify and similar mainstream outlets nowadays, are filled with "2012 remaster" and so on. Most mainstream music on Spotify is iPhone remastered.

    What's important to understand though, is that not only did classic 80s music get iPhone remastered, but that iPhone mastered songs are the result of composing and more importantly editing the music on computers, rather than using real instruments. That's why modern music sounds like shit, all of it.

    I know you like Yngwie Malmsteen and I've been checking out some of his songs recently, great stuff. Music like Malmsteen is rare today, precisely because most of it isn't composed on real instruments.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    Though I listen to Black Velvet now and love it, I guess reminds me of my childhood. But back in 1989 it was so overplayed on the radio.
    It was overplayed because it's a damn good song. I don't really remember Black Velvet from the 80s (I was like 4-5 years old when it was on the air), but I listen to it a lot nowadays because it's such a genuine song, like pretty much all 80s music, even the crappy songs. I'm not an Elvis fan though (he's super overrated).

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    That and this song, so typical 80s

    This song definitely has an 80s atmosphere to it, but it's hardly one of the better 80s songs.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    Most 80s music is objectively bad.
    Most music of any decade, regardless of genre, is objectively bad. Difference is that during the 80s we got a lot of good stuff, more so than during any other decade. Yes they also released a lot of crap during the 80s, but at least back then we got really great songs every week.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRouge View Post
    I only like it now because it reminds me of my childhood.
    What's your opinion of Total Eclipse of the Heart? Can you with a straight face say it's an objectively bad song?

    Bonnie Tyler - Total Eclipse of the Heart (Video):


    ^^ Anyone who dislikes this song has really bad taste, lol.
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