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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    North-western Europeans are genetically, linguistically and culturally very closely related to Greeks and Italians. Bantu-derived Americans have nothing to do with ancient Egyptians, who were not a Negro population.

    Nordicists like Arthur Kemp with his "March of the Titans" stupid bullshit, have a more valid argument when he's trying to claim the ancient Sumerians as a white people. They weren't Indo-European speakers and they weren't even European genetically, but at least the ancient Sumerians were Caucasoids and possibly had blue eyes, maybe even pale skin.

    Bantus are genetically "close" to non Bantu West Africans, but Bantus never claim anything in West Africa and why? THEY ARE NOT culturally, nor linguistically the same damn people. This obsession to "claim" something based on race or genetic proximity is retardology at its finest. I'm Afram but I claim nothing in West Africa. Why do you race morons seek to think you can claim something based on genome wide studies? You can't, many people who are linguistically, culturally, and ethnically distinct can be genetically close in some cases, do you think that matters? Hell damn no. Europeans, from my time in Europe, are highly ethnocentric, wait till its World Cup for example, I don't see British and Swedes rooting for Greeks and Italians the same way race clowns of Northwest European descent try to "claim" Greece and Rome, based off of some damn genome wide study. smh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
    Bantus are genetically "close" to non Bantu West Africans, but Bantus never claim anything in West Africa and why?
    There's nothing to claim.

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    THEY ARE NOT culturally, nor linguistically the same damn people.
    Neither are Aframs and ancient Egyptians.

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    This obsession to "claim" something based on race or genetic proximity is retardology at its finest.
    It depends on who's doing it. If it's actually one's ancestors, it's fine to identify with an ancient people.

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    I'm Afram but I claim nothing in West Africa.
    There's nothing to claim.

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    Why do you race morons seek to think you can claim something based on genome wide studies? You can't, many people who are linguistically, culturally, and ethnically distinct can be genetically close in some cases, do you think that matters? Hell damn no. Europeans, from my time in Europe, are highly ethnocentric, wait till its World Cup for example, I don't see British and Swedes rooting for Greeks and Italians the same way race clowns of Northwest European descent try to "claim" Greece and Rome, based off of some damn genome wide study. smh
    I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Modern north-western Europeans (and they're not many) who argue that it was Nordics who founded Graeco-Roman civilization, while they're wrong about that, they're far less delusional than Aframs like yourself who argue that black Africans were the founders of Egyptian civilization. Graeco-Roman civilization was at least a European civilization. The Greeks and Romans were strongly influenced by the Mesopotamian and Egyptian civilizations, but they were also Europeans and they shared a lot of ancestry with other Europeans living further north of them.

    You black Egypt morons are complete dumbasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post

    Neither are Aframs and ancient Egyptians.
    No one said there was moron. Aframs have only been around for 400 years as a distinct ethnicity. Saying ancient Egyptians were black/African people isn't claiming them nor their culture.

    It depends on who's doing it. If it's actually one's ancestors, it's fine to identify with an ancient people.
    Greeks and Romans are not the ancestors of modern day Northwest Europeans, end of story. So no one can claim any ancient people.



    I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Modern north-western Europeans (and they're not many) who argue that it was Nordics who founded Graeco-Roman civilization, while they're wrong about that, they're far less delusional than Aframs like yourself who argue that black Africans were the founders of Egyptian civilization. Graeco-Roman civilization was at least a European civilization.
    Being that ancient Egyptian civilization started in the south from dark skinned people they would be black Africans and therefore Aframs who believe ancient Egyptians were black are not delusional. Nordicist claiming a Nordic upper founding class in Egypt, Greece, and Rome are TOTALLY delusional

    The Greeks and Romans were strongly influenced by the Mesopotamian and Egyptian civilizations, but they were also Europeans and they shared a lot of ancestry with other Europeans living further north of them.
    Ancestry has nothing to do with this, as I already stated, Bantus have their ancestry origins in West Africa but they don't ever claim Ghana, Mali, Igbos, Songhai as their people nor their civilizations, but delusional Eurocentrists and Nordicists who are losers and never accomplished anything themselves always liek to feel pride in claiming ancient civilizations for merely being the same race as the ancients. This includes deluded Assyrian morons like you who identify as Assyrian today because modern day Assyrians aren't shxt today and their country is backwards despite what happened in ancient times

    You black Egypt morons are complete dumbasses.
    Black Egypt is a reality, an Egypt with people who looked like Assyrians is delusional


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    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
    No one said there was moron. Aframs have only been around for 400 years as a distinct ethnicity. Saying ancient Egyptians were black/African people isn't claiming them nor their culture.
    Of course it is. It's really only Aframs who are saying it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
    Greeks and Romans are not the ancestors of modern day Northwest Europeans, end of story. So no one can claim any ancient people.
    This is a straw man. No Nordicist has ever argued that Greeks and Romans were the ancestors of modern Germanic folks. What they're saying is that the original Greek and Roman tribes were a lot more like northern Europeans before they "mixed with Arabs". Of course we know now thanks to genetics, that's not true. But despite the fact that it isn't true, Nordicists are less crackpot than your delusional ass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
    Being that ancient Egyptian civilization started in the south from dark skinned people they would be black Africans and therefore Aframs who believe ancient Egyptians were black are not delusional.
    No, it really is delusional.

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    Nordicist claiming a Nordic upper founding class in Egypt, Greece, and Rome are TOTALLY delusional
    Well at least the Greeks and Romans spoke the same language family as Germanics, and the pre-Christian, pagan religions of Greece and Rome were closely related to Asatro and the Celtic pagan religions. You Bantus have no connection whatsoever with ancient Egypt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
    Ancestry has nothing to do with this, as I already stated, Bantus have their ancestry origins in West Africa but they don't ever claim Ghana, Mali, Igbos, Songhai as their people nor their civilizations, but delusional Eurocentrists and Nordicists who are losers and never accomplished anything themselves always liek to feel pride in claiming ancient civilizations for merely being the same race as the ancients.
    It sounds like you're projecting, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
    This includes deluded Assyrian morons like you who identify as Assyrian today because modern day Assyrians aren't shxt today and their country is backwards despite what happened in ancient times
    Yeah, as I was saying, you're an idiot.

    My ancestry really is Assyrian, but yours isn't Egyptian You're too much of a dumbass to understand this stuff anyway. But you can read more about it here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_continuity

    ^^ All serious academics involved in the subject, support the fact that we do indeed descend from the ancient Assyrians. No serious academic supports "black Egypt".

    Also, it's not our fault, that Iraq and Syria are shitholes today; we had no role in these regions becoming shitholes. That's all on the Muslims. Muslims are the ultimate failures and losers. We left the Middle East because Muslims are Losers with a capital L. If Assyrians ruled the Middle East today, it would be a glorious, brilliant, state of the art, cutting edge and inspirational region of the world. But it didn't turn out that way, and evil prevailed in the form of Islam and towelhead nationalism, so what can you do but vote with your feet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Game Theory View Post
    Black Egypt is a reality, an Egypt with people who looked like Assyrians is delusional
    Right:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Egyptian_hypothesis

    ^^ Hypothesis Read that again: HYPOTHESIS. You're such a delusional crackpot.

    And if black Egypt was such a reality, how come when the Assyrians invaded Egypt, they chased off Taharqa, who was like the only black Pharao of non-Egyptian, Nubian descent? Why would the Assyrian kings chase off Nubians from Egypt, if Egypt was a black civilization? Assyrians restored Egyptian ancestry in Egypt. Will Smith was going to do a movie about this, but he seems to have put it off. Michael Jackson and Eddie Murphy did a music video set in ancient Egypt. Ancient Egypt has become a American black nationalist symbol, it's ridiculous. Modern Scandinavians and Slavs talking about the ancient Aryans of India, have more of a claim to the Rig Veda than you Aframs have to ancient Egypt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    Of course it is. It's really only Aframs who are saying it too.
    Calling somebody black is NOT claiming them nor their civilization, consult a dictionary.

    This is a straw man. No Nordicist has ever argued that Greeks and Romans were the ancestors of modern Germanic folks. What they're saying is that the original Greek and Roman tribes were a lot more like northern Europeans before they "mixed with Arabs". Of course we know now thanks to genetics, that's not true. But despite the fact that it isn't true, Nordicists are less crackpot than your delusional ass.
    Funny your dumb ass mentioned Arthur Kemp when he directly made the claim of a Nordic ancient Egypt, this proves you don't know a damn thing.

    No, it really is delusional.

    Well at least the Greeks and Romans spoke the same language family as Germanics, and the pre-Christian, pagan religions of Greece and Rome were closely related to Asatro and the Celtic pagan religions. You Bantus have no connection whatsoever with ancient Egypt.
    Romans spoke Romance languages, Greeks Hellenic languages, Germanics spoke Germanic languages, all mutually NOT intelligible to one another. They did not have the same religions, period, you lack of knowledge and your reaches are making you look stupid.



    My ancestry really is Assyrian, but yours isn't Egyptian You're too much of a dumbass to understand this stuff anyway. But you can read more about it here:
    I stated that I am Afram, and never stated I was an ancient Egyptian, nor did I state I descend from them, look at my profile dumbass, nothing Egyptian about it. Stating that ancient Egyptians are black is not claiming them were Afram, nor is that stating I descend from, you dumb notion comes from a strawman that says the only real blacks are West Africans and Bantus, well I never stated that.



    ^^ All serious academics involved in the subject, support the fact that we do indeed descend from the ancient Assyrians. No serious academic supports "black Egypt".
    African Egypt is taken various serious by scholars in the field, pure Eurasian ancient Egypt founded by Middle Eastern invaders is NOT supported by science nor academia.

    Also, it's not our fault, that Iraq and Syria are shitholes today; we had no role in these regions becoming shitholes. That's all on the Muslims. Muslims are the ultimate failures and losers. We left the Middle East because Muslims are Losers with a capital L. If Assyrians ruled the Middle East today, it would be a glorious, brilliant, state of the art, cutting edge and inspirational region of the world. But it didn't turn out that way, and evil prevailed in the form of Islam and towelhead nationalism, so what can you do.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Egyptian_hypothesis

    ^^ Hypothesis Read that again: HYPOTHESIS. You're such a delusional crackpot.
    wikipedia article written by non-scientific source, you are the crackpot.

    And if black Egypt was such a reality, how come when the Assyrians invaded Egypt, they chased off Taharqa, who was like the only black Pharao of non-Egyptian, Nubian descent? Why would the Assyrian kings chase off Nubians from Egypt, if Egypt was a black civilization?

    Senseless question that has no bearing on Egypt being black, rival nations conquer each other all the time moron, early Egypt conquered Caanan.

    Assyrians restored Egyptian ancestry in Egypt.
    Nxgga please! Assyrians are not Egyptians to begin with moron.


    Will Smith was going to do a movie about this, but he seems to have put it off. Michael Jackson and Eddie Murphy did a music video set in ancient Egypt. Ancient Egypt has become a American black nationalist symbol, it's ridiculous. Modern Scandinavians and Slavs talking about the ancient Aryans of India, have more of a claim to the Rig Veda than you Aframs have to ancient Egypt.

    I am Afram and liek other Aframs here have stated, most Aframs do not give a damn about an ancient Egypt nor care, white Americans and European actors have done way more movies about ancient Egyptians, I guess they're obsessed too by your logic compared to one music video by Micheal Jackson representing all of Aframs?


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    Europeans have common ancestral, cultural and linguistic origins... their histories are inextricably interconnected. A North-West European is connected to Greece and Rome by race, ancestry, culture and history. Greece and Rome are products of European people and culture and central to European history, it's not possible to extricate them from Europe. This doesn't mean they have no relation to other people though, because they do.


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    (Kristiansen, The Rise of Bronze Age Society, 2005)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason1234 View Post
    Europeans have common ancestral, cultural and linguistic origins... their histories are inextricably interconnected. A North-West European is connected to Greece and Rome by race, ancestry, culture and history. Greece and Rome are products of European people and culture and central to European history, it's not possible to extricate them from Europe. This doesn't mean they have no relation to other people though, because they do.
    I dont research European DNA enough to know specifics but i was under the impression that Modern Western Europeans descend mainly from R1b and mtdna H. Their levels of R1b are similar to African American E1b1a with other lineages being present but somewhat of an afterthought. I was also under the impression that Modern Mediterraneans.....who are the "founders" of their western civilization are defined by nearly everything other than R1b and H with that combination instead being somewhat of an Afterthought. I only have cursory knowledge of European Ancient DNA but I understand the main lineages found among modern Western Euros to be pretty much missing in action among their early farming ancestors.

    Who can confirm?

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    Elias, what's your opinion on this:




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    Its all a bunch of bullshxt only hashed out here in the opinions of Negrophobic racist whites that somehow ALL Europeans are the same when they are not. No Finn, Swede, Dane, German, etc can rightfully claim anything in Greek nor Rome, period.


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    No one said there was moron. Aframs have only been around for 400 years as a distinct ethnicity. Saying ancient Egyptians were black/African people isn't claiming them nor their culture
    What are you going to do when we get more genomes of the Pharaohs and they're much closer to Finns and Norwegians than to Bantu Africans like the New Kingdom-Roman era genomes were?


    You better pray those were a total Anomaly.



    I don't think most Old Kingdom Ancient Egyptians will deviate genetically into the sub-Saharan direction than those modern Mozabite Berbers do.


    African Egypt is taken various serious by scholars in the field, pure Eurasian ancient Egypt founded by Middle Eastern invaders is NOT supported by science nor academia.
    Pure Eurasian...no of course not. Predominitelty Eurasian yes of course. If Taforalt way out West 8k years before Early Dynastic Egypt is already over half Eurasian then you can bet your ass The Ancient Egyptians will have a ton of Eurasian ancestry.
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