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    Default Is "Basal Eurasian" an African or non-African genetic component?

    Can someone help me to understand exactly what is this genetic component?
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    Basal Eurasians are the sibling group that diverged from the main lineage of all other non-African groups[6] (e.g., Australian Aborigines, New Guineans,[7] Europeans, East Asians[8]), prior to their divergence from one another.[6] The admixture of the main lineage of all other non-Africans with Neanderthals likely occurred 50,000-60,000 years ago, after it diverged from Basal Eurasians.[9]
    Basal Eurasian is an ancient eurasian ancestry originated most likely in Arabia, and its Found in all eursaians from the caucasus to iberia But I know what you want to achieve
    Even if it originated in africa , Its not african, because its related to eurasians the "blood" of the modern eurasians. not africans.

    and don't worry ancient egyptians didn't at all have some kind of special basal eurasian they are as basal eurasian as any arab from arabia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebro View Post
    Basal Eurasian is an ancient eurasian ancestry originated most likely in Arabia, and its Found in all eursaians from the caucasus to iberia But I know what you want to achieve
    Even if it originated in africa , Its not african, because its related to eurasians the "blood" of the modern eurasians. not africans.

    and don't worry ancient egyptians didn't at all have some kind of special basal eurasian they are as basal eurasian as any arab from arabia.

    In modern populations it's found everywhere from North Africa to the the Urals..from Iceland to India. Every population has it west of the Urals and Himalayas. Modern East Africans have it too, but if we are to go by Mota which is our only current evidence it's drastically increased in East Africa the least 5,000 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Hades View Post
    In modern populations it's found everywhere from North Africa to the the Urals..from Iceland to India. Every population has it west of the Urals and Himalayas. Modern East Africans have it too, but if we are to go by Mota which is out only current evidence it's drastically increased in East Africa the least 5,000 years.
    Why do you keep focusing on MOTA though as if ALL Ethiopians were similar to MOTA.
    If you think ALL ancient Ethiopians were like Mota then you are unfamiliar with East African demographic history.
    It was found in other Africans south of Mota. See the new study with the remains from Tanzania and Kenya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beyoku View Post
    Why do you keep focusing on MOTA though as if ALL Ethiopians were similar to MOTA.
    If you think ALL ancient Ethiopians were like Mota then you are unfamiliar with East African demographic history.
    It was found in other Africans south of Mota. See the new study with the remains from Tanzania and Kenya.
    Because Mota is all we currently have from ancient genome sequencing from that area and timespan. We only have 3 Ancient Norht Eurasian genomes so we assume Siberians at that time were like them.

    OBVIOUSLY, I want more data on Africa. All of Africa too, not just North Africa. Luxwanda genome is 1,500 years younger than Mota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Hades View Post
    Because Mota is all we currently have from ancient genome sequencing from that area and timespan. We only have 3 Ancient Norht Eurasian genomes so we assume Siberians at that time were like them.

    OBVIOUSLY, I want more data on Africa. All of Africa too, not just North Africa. Luxwanda genome is 1,500 years younger than Mota.
    4000 year old cushitic pastoralist samples from SE Africa have just been released.They were even more Eurasian than Somalis who are the most pristine modern Cushitic group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meygaag View Post
    4000 year old cushitic pastoralist samples from SE Africa have just been released.They were even more Eurasian than Somalis who are the most pristine modern Cushitic group.
    Someone needs to make a thread discussing it. I supposed all their Eurasian like ancestry is Natufian related?

    These are full genome sequenced samples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Hades View Post
    Someone needs to make a thread discussing it. I supposed all their Eurasian like ancestry is Natufian related?

    These are full genome sequenced samples?
    Yes full genomes.

    A Somali from anthro ran the Cushitic Kenyan sample.

    Kenya_Early_Pastoral_N (~4000BP):

    50.0% (+/- 0.9%) Levant_N
    22.6% (+/- 3.4%) Dinka
    26.7% (+/- 3.6%) Mota



    Somali (Single individual from Garissa, Kenya):

    40.2% (+/- 1%) Levant_N
    54.8% (+/- 3.6%) Dinka
    5.0% (+/- 3.7%) Mota

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    from the paper:

    "we formulated a four-part hypothesis to explain the origins of the ancestries in the sampled eastern African groups. First, admixture in northeastern Africa, likely associated with the spread of pastoralism, created groups (as yet unsampled with ancient DNA) with approximately equal proportions of ancestry related to (1) present-day Nilotic speakers such as Dinka and Nuer, and (2) sampled ancient and present-day groups from northern Africa and the Levant. We refer to this combination as early northeastern African pastoralist-associated ancestry (henceforth “early northeastern pastoralist,” or ENP). Second, descendants of these groups mixed with local foragers in eastern Africa, leading to the ~20% Mota-related ancestry in the PN individuals. [...]

    On the basis of genetic data from a wide sampling of PN individuals, we infer two phases of admixture associated with the spread of pastoralism: the first likely ~6000-5000 BP in northeastern Africa, and the second ~4000 BP between this admixed ENP group and eastern African foragers."

    This is basically what I said a while back.

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    ^ Quote yourself where you said it.

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