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    Default The Debian Linux logo is the ancient Egyptian number for 100

    Debian the universal Operating System's official symbol is a swirl. I used to think about it as an Artist's swirl but I just figured out, on my own, it is actually the ancient Egyptian number symbol for one number unit 100 :



    This is the Debian symbol :



    The water lily represents 1,000.

    Wow, GameTheory knows nothing of this, does not use Debian, and he wants so bad to associated with Egypt even though their mathematics system was pathetic -- you can't do algebraic manipulation with water lily symbols etc...

    What say you ? Ubuntu and Windows are an ancient African name for I can't install and use Debian.

    I currently use Arch Linux because my laptop is brand spanking new and the rolling release of the newest packages and firmware is on point my Nukka G's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracoSentien View Post
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    The current Hindi/Arabic numerals we use might have be more advantageous for modern calculations compared to their Egyptian or Roman counterparts. I do not necessarily disagree with that.

    On the other hand, there is evidence that ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs had a lot to do with forming our modern Latin-derived alphabet, starting with the former's influence on Proto-Sinaitic.

    A year back or so, I even drew this little chart illustrating the evolution of modern European and Semitic alphabets from Egyptian hieroglyphs. You can even buy your own printed copy from Redbubble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truthcentric View Post
    The current Hindi/Arabic numerals we use might have be more advantageous for modern calculations compared to their Egyptian or Roman counterparts. I do not necessarily disagree with that.

    On the other hand, there is evidence that ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs had a lot to do with forming our modern Latin-derived alphabet, starting with the former's influence on Proto-Sinaitic.

    A year back or so, I even drew this little chart illustrating the evolution of modern European and Semitic alphabets from Egyptian hieroglyphs. You can even buy your own printed copy from Redbubble.
    That is nice but everyday languages like English, French, Japanese etc... etc... are vastly primitive compared to the international language of size, order and shape or what is called Maths. Esperanto is a failure and I am not sure how logical it is. Everyday languages, compared to math, are clogged with sentiment of the individual or the nation. Math is the language of technology, commerce, architecture and science.

    Ludwig Wittgenstein in his Tractatus-Logico-Philosophicus tried to show what a logical everyday human language would be like and his latter philosophy was a language game that would not have been possible without the weaknesses in everyday language. Mathematics is constantly sharpening its tools and while regular languages have poetry it is inferior to math :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truthcentric View Post
    The current Hindi/Arabic numerals we use might have be more advantageous for modern calculations compared to their Egyptian or Roman counterparts. I do not necessarily disagree with that.

    On the other hand, there is evidence that ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs had a lot to do with forming our modern Latin-derived alphabet, starting with the former's influence on Proto-Sinaitic.

    A year back or so, I even drew this little chart illustrating the evolution of modern European and Semitic alphabets from Egyptian hieroglyphs. You can even buy your own printed copy from Redbubble.
    Ah so you’re Tyrannohotep, a moderator on Egyptsearch. No wonder your beliefs have no basis in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason1234 View Post
    Ah so you’re Tyrannohotep, a moderator on Egyptsearch. No wonder your beliefs have no basis in reality.
    Two things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truthcentric View Post
    Two things.

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    I base my opinions on evidence. Yours are as fact-free as your delusional fantasy drawings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DracoSentien View Post
    you can't do algebraic manipulation with water lily symbols etc...
    Why not? You can even do algebra with just a syllabic writing system, where the set of characters used in conventional algebraic notation is mapped to a set of syllabic characters.

    I have made a syllabic writing system for Japanese, where for example the formula ax²+bx+c=0 can be expressed as:



    Which is read as "ee eku suku pu bii eku pu shii wa rei", which is short for "ee ekkusu sukuwea purasu bii ekkusu purasu shii wa rei".

    The writing system is actually what I call "supersyllabic", which means that in addition to characters for individual syllables, it also includes characters for sequences of two or more syllables, such as "eku" and "suku".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yyy View Post
    Why not? You can even do algebra with just a syllabic writing system, where the set of characters used in conventional algebraic notation is mapped to a set of syllabic characters.

    I have made a syllabic writing system for Japanese, where for example the formula ax²+bx+c=0 can be expressed as:



    Which is read as "ee eku suku pu bii eku pu shii wa rei", which is short for "ee ekkusu sukuwea purasu bii ekkusu purasu shii wa rei".

    The writing system is actually what I call "supersyllabic", which means that in addition to characters for individual syllables, it also includes characters for sequences of two or more syllables, such as "eku" and "suku".
    Without the concept of 0 it would be cumbersome to impossible to do algebraic manipulations with them with just a pen and a pencil. Maybe, you could write like a computer program using PERL to do it but that is just daft/stupid.

    Don't forget I am talking about what the Egyptian, Romans, Sumerians, and ancient Greeks (including ancient Alexandria ), Mayan used etc... Archimedes had to use an abacus without the concept of 0 now the abacus is in the babies play pen.

    The question , today, is not whether your mentally retarded invented symbols are possible to do it with but whether it is optimum. The question is which is optimum ? Base 10 (which is based on human hands and feet), binary or base16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truthcentric View Post
    The current Hindi/Arabic numerals we use might have be more advantageous for modern calculations compared to their Egyptian or Roman counterparts. I do not necessarily disagree with that.

    On the other hand, there is evidence that ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs had a lot to do with forming our modern Latin-derived alphabet, starting with the former's influence on Proto-Sinaitic.

    A year back or so, I even drew this little chart illustrating the evolution of modern European and Semitic alphabets from Egyptian hieroglyphs. You can even buy your own printed copy from Redbubble.
    Do you have any evidence that ancient egyptians were black ?

    You're the same guy that drew this :




    We need some explanations Mr.cuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by NassBean View Post
    Do you have any evidence that ancient egyptians were black ?

    You're the same guy that drew this :




    We need some explanations Mr.cuck
    That would be from the era of Ptolemy so it is possible because Egypt would have already basically fallen as the most advanced civilization by then. Check out that dude's body modifcations :

    It will be well first to shew in some detail that savages pay the greatest attention to their personal appearance. (42. A full and excellent account of the manner in which savages in all parts of the world ornament themselves, is given by the Italian traveller, Professor Mantegazza, 'Rio de la Plata, Viaggi e Studi,' 1867, pp. 525-545; all the following statements, when other references are not given, are taken from this work. See, also, Waitz, 'Introduction to Anthropology,' Eng. translat. vol. i. 1863, p. 275, et passim. Lawrence also gives very full details in his 'Lectures on Physiology,' 1822. Since this chapter was written Sir J. Lubbock has published his 'Origin of Civilisation,' 1870, in which there is an interesting chapter on the present subject, and from which (pp. 42, 48) I have taken some facts about savages dyeing their teeth and hair, and piercing their teeth.) That they have a passion for ornament is notorious; and an English philosopher goes so far as to maintain, that clothes were first made for ornament and not for warmth. As Professor Waitz remarks, "however poor and miserable man is, he finds a pleasure in adorning himself." The extravagance of the naked Indians of South America in decorating themselves is shewn "by a man of large stature gaining with difficulty enough by the labour of a fortnight to procure in exchange the chica necessary to paint himself red." (43. Humboldt, 'Personal Narrative,' Eng. translat. vol. iv. p. 515; on the imagination shewn in painting the body, p. 522; on modifying the form of the calf of the leg, p. 466.) The ancient barbarians of Europe during the Reindeer period brought to their caves any brilliant or singular objects which they happened to find. Savages at the present day everywhere deck themselves with plumes, necklaces, armlets, ear-rings, etc. They paint themselves in the most diversified manner. "If painted nations," as Humboldt observes, "had been examined with the same attention as clothed nations, it would have been perceived that the most fertile imagination and the most mutable caprice have created the fashions of painting, as well as those of garments."

    In one part of Africa the eyelids are coloured black; in another the nails are coloured yellow or purple. In many places the hair is dyed of various tints. In different countries the teeth are stained black, red, blue, etc., and in the Malay Archipelago it is thought shameful to have white teeth "like those of a dog." Not one great country can be named, from the polar regions in the north to New Zealand in the south, in which the aborigines do not tattoo themselves. This practice was followed by the Jews of old, and by the ancient Britons. In Africa some of the natives tattoo themselves, but it is a much more common practice to raise protuberances by rubbing salt into incisions made in various parts of the body; and these are considered by the inhabitants of Kordofan and Darfur "to be great personal attractions." In the Arab countries no beauty can be perfect until the cheeks "or temples have been gashed." (44. 'The Nile Tributaries,' 1867; 'The Albert N'yanza,' 1866, vol. i. p. 218.) In South America, as Humboldt remarks, "a mother would be accused of culpable indifference towards her children, if she did not employ artificial means to shape the calf of the leg after the fashion of the country." In the Old and New Worlds the shape of the skull was formerly modified during infancy in the most extraordinary manner, as is still the case in many places, and such deformities are considered ornamental. For instance, the savages of Colombia (45. Quoted by Prichard, 'Physical History of Mankind,' 4th ed. vol. i. 1851, p. 321.) deem a much flattened head "an essential point of beauty."

    The hair is treated with especial care in various countries; it is allowed to grow to full length, so as to reach to the ground, or is combed into "a compact frizzled mop, which is the Papuan's pride and glory." (46. On the Papuans, Wallace, 'The Malay Archipelago,' vol. ii. p. 445. On the coiffure of the Africans, Sir S. Baker, 'The Albert N'yanza,' vol. i. p. 210.) In northern Africa "a man requires a period of from eight to ten years to perfect his coiffure." With other nations the head is shaved, and in parts of South America and Africa even the eyebrows and eyelashes are eradicated. The natives of the Upper Nile knock out the four front teeth, saying that they do not wish to resemble brutes. Further south, the Batokas knock out only the two upper incisors, which, as Livingstone (47. 'Travels,' p. 533.) remarks, gives the face a hideous appearance, owing to the prominence of the lower jaw; but these people think the presence of the incisors most unsightly, and on beholding some Europeans, cried out, "Look at the great teeth!" The chief Sebituani tried in vain to alter this fashion. In various parts of Africa and in the Malay Archipelago the natives file the incisors into points like those of a saw, or pierce them with holes, into which they insert studs.

    As the face with us is chiefly admired for its beauty, so with savages it is the chief seat of mutilation. In all quarters of the world the septum, and more rarely the wings of the nose are pierced; rings, sticks, feathers, and other ornaments being inserted into the holes. The ears are everywhere pierced and similarly ornamented, and with the Botocudos and Lenguas of South America the hole is gradually so much enlarged that the lower edge touches the shoulder. In North and South America and in Africa either the upper or lower lip is pierced; and with the Botocudos the hole in the lower lip is so large that a disc of wood, four inches in diameter, is placed in it. Mantegazza gives a curious account of the shame felt by a South American native, and of the ridicule which he excited, when he sold his tembeta,—the large coloured piece of wood which is passed through the hole. In Central Africa the women perforate the lower lip and wear a crystal, which, from the movement of the tongue, has "a wriggling motion, indescribably ludicrous during conversation." The wife of the chief of Latooka told Sir S. Baker (49. 'The Albert N'yanza,' 1866, vol. i. p. 217.) that Lady Baker "would be much improved if she would extract her four front teeth from the lower jaw, and wear the long pointed polished crystal in her under lip." Further south with the Makalolo, the upper lip is perforated, and a large metal and bamboo ring, called a pelele, is worn in the hole. "This caused the lip in one case to project two inches beyond the tip of the nose; and when the lady smiled, the contraction of the muscles elevated it over the eyes. 'Why do the women wear these things?' the venerable chief, Chinsurdi, was asked. Evidently surprised at such a stupid question, he replied, 'For beauty! They are the only beautiful things women have; men have beards, women have none. What kind of a person would she be without the pelele? She would not be a woman at all with a mouth like a man, but no beard.'" (49. Livingstone, 'British Association,' 1860; report given in the 'Athenaeum,' July 7, 1860, p. 29.)

    Hardly any part of the body, which can be unnaturally modified, has escaped. The amount of suffering thus caused must have been extreme, for many of the operations require several years for their completion, so that the idea of their necessity must be imperative. The motives are various; the men paint their bodies to make themselves appear terrible in battle; certain mutilations are connected with religious rites, or they mark the age of puberty, or the rank of the man, or they serve to distinguish the tribes. Amongst savages the same fashions prevail for long periods (50. Sir S. Baker (ibid. vol. i. p. 210) speaking of the natives of Central Africa says, "every tribe has a distinct and unchanging fashion for dressing the hair." See Agassiz ('Journey in Brazil,' 1868, p. 318) on invariability of the tattooing of Amazonian Indians.), and thus mutilations, from whatever cause first made, soon come to be valued as distinctive marks. But self-adornment, vanity, and the admiration of others, seem to be the commonest motives. In regard to tattooing, I was told by the missionaries in New Zealand that when they tried to persuade some girls to give up the practice, they answered, "We must just have a few lines on our lips; else when we grow old we shall be so very ugly." With the men of New Zealand, a most capable judge (51. Rev. R. Taylor, 'New Zealand and its Inhabitants,' 1855, p. 152.) says, "to have fine tattooed faces was the great ambition of the young, both to render themselves attractive to the ladies, and conspicuous in war." A star tattooed on the forehead and a spot on the chin are thought by the women in one part of Africa to be irresistible attractions. (52. Mantegazza, 'Viaggi e Studi,' p. 542.) In most, but not all parts of the world, the men are more ornamented than the women, and often in a different manner; sometimes, though rarely, the women are hardly at all ornamented. As the women are made by savages to perform the greatest share of the work, and as they are not allowed to eat the best kinds of food, so it accords with the characteristic selfishness of man that they should not be allowed to obtain, or use the finest ornaments. Lastly, it is a remarkable fact, as proved by the foregoing quotations, that the same fashions in modifying the shape of the head, in ornamenting the hair, in painting, tattooing, in perforating the nose, lips, or ears, in removing or filing the teeth, etc., now prevail, and have long prevailed, in the most distant quarters of the world. It is extremely improbable that these practices, followed by so many distinct nations, should be due to tradition from any common source. They indicate the close similarity of the mind of man, to whatever race he may belong, just as do the almost universal habits of dancing, masquerading, and making rude pictures.

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