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    The Philistine people—who gave their name to the land called Palestine—and who were the ancient Jews’ greatest enemy, as recorded in the bible—were of European origin, groundbreaking DNA studies have shown.

    The Philistines were believed to have arrived in Palestine—now called Israel—in the 12th century BC as part of the Indo-European settlement of the Near Middle East.

    They soon became determined enemies of the Jews in that territory, perhaps best-known from the biblical story of David and Goliath—a story of a giant Philistine warrior allegedly killed by a diminutive Jew with a slingshot during a battle in the Valley of Elah, southeast of what is now Tel-Aviv.

    The hatred between Jews and Philistines became a dominant theme of the history of the land between the Dead Sea and the Mediterranean Sea, to the point where in Judaized western Christian culture, to be called a “Philistine” became the equivalent of being insulted and dismissed as a barbarian.

    After analyzing the ancient DNA of 10 individuals buried at a Philistine archaeological site, an international team of researchers found that the Philistines descended from people in Greece, Sardinia or even Iberia (present-day Spain and Portugal). These ancestors migrated across the Mediterranean during the late Bronze Age or early Iron age, about 3,000 years ago.

    But this European genetic signal was short-lived. Once the Philistines arrived in the southern Levant, an area encompassing the eastern Mediterranean, they intermarried with the locals. “Within no more than two centuries, this genetic footprint introduced during the early Iron Age is no longer detectable and seems to be diluted by a local Levantine-related gene pool,” study co-researcher Choongwon Jeong, an archaeogeneticist at the Max Planck Institute of the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany, said in a statement.

    The geneticists sampled more than 100 specimens, mainly teeth and inner ear bones, which are both known to be good preservers of ancient DNA. But the researchers got DNA results from only 11 specimens belonging to 10 individuals who lived between 3,600 and 2,800 years ago.

    But the DNA from the 10 individuals was enough to solve the mystery. When the researchers compared DNA from the earlier, Bronze Age people with DNA from the later, Iron Age Philistines, they saw they had an ancestral component that the Bronze Age people didn’t have—and this ancestral component was traced to southern Europe.

    Daniel Master, the director of the expedition, said that “the idea that the Philistines were immigrants was something we could never demonstrate before.”

    Bones extracted from the site of the Ashkelon Philistine Cemetery were sent to the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany, for DNA analysis. The technique was not available to archaeologists when the bones were originally discovered in 2016.

    The study was originally published in the journal Science Advances under the title “Ancient DNA sheds light on the genetic origins of early Iron Age Philistines,” Science Advances 03 Jul 2019: Vol. 5, no. 7, eaax0061 DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.aax0061
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    Whore cares? In the bible they were continually conquered and owned.
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    "Your worst enemy is the European world"
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    It may fit the Hebrew myth. Some Philistine names, like "Goliath," do not fit Semitic languages, but they fit the southern European languages. Not only was Goliath reputed to be a giant, but Philistines in general were reputed to be tall, which would likewise follow from their European origin.

    This is a troubling part of the article:

    But this European genetic signal was short-lived. Once the Philistines arrived in the southern Levant, an area encompassing the eastern Mediterranean, they intermarried with the locals. “Within no more than two centuries, this genetic footprint introduced during the early Iron Age is no longer detectable and seems to be diluted by a local Levantine-related gene pool,” study co-researcher Choongwon Jeong, an archaeogeneticist at the Max Planck Institute of the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany, said in a statement.

    The complete disappearance of the European genetic variants does not follow from mere intermarriage. If the rates of reproduction were equal, then the European genetic footprint would be maintained, and it would be a portion of the genome equal to the historical share of the population. What completely wiped out the European genetic footprint was their persisting failure to reproduce relative to the competing Semitic races. Being half white meant having only a middle probability of reproducing, being a quarter white meant only three-quarters as likely, and the frequency of the European genetic variants progressively converged on zero. This is what is happening to the white European genotype all over the world. The white genotype will not live on, not even as a portion of future genomes. It will be completely wiped out.
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    Seems logical because they were multiple theories about the sea people being from southern europe especially sicily,sardinia and the aegean area
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    Quote Originally Posted by NassBean View Post
    Seems logical because they were multiple theories about the sea people being from southern europe especially sicily,sardinia and the aegean area
    I wouldn't be surprised if Berbers are partly Sea People.

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    It may fit the Hebrew myth. Some Philistine names, like "Goliath," do not fit Semitic languages, but they fit the southern European languages. Not only was Goliath reputed to be a giant, but Philistines in general were reputed to be tall, which would likewise follow from their European origin.

    This is a troubling part of the article:

    But this European genetic signal was short-lived. Once the Philistines arrived in the southern Levant, an area encompassing the eastern Mediterranean, they intermarried with the locals. “Within no more than two centuries, this genetic footprint introduced during the early Iron Age is no longer detectable and seems to be diluted by a local Levantine-related gene pool,” study co-researcher Choongwon Jeong, an archaeogeneticist at the Max Planck Institute of the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany, said in a statement.

    The complete disappearance of the European genetic variants does not follow from mere intermarriage. If the rates of reproduction were equal, then the European genetic footprint would be maintained, and it would be a portion of the genome equal to the historical share of the population. What completely wiped out the European genetic footprint was their persisting failure to reproduce relative to the competing Semitic races. Being half white meant having only a middle probability of reproducing, being a quarter white meant only three-quarters as likely, and the frequency of the European genetic variants progressively converged on zero. This is what is happening to the white European genotype all over the world. The white genotype will not live on, not even as a portion of future genomes. It will be completely wiped out.
    If they were mostly males, it's easy to understand why they would disappear into the native population in the space of a few centuries. The same sort of thing happened with the Vandals in North Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason1234 View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Berbers are partly Sea People.

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    If they were mostly males, it's easy to understand why they would disappear into the native population in the space of a few centuries. The same sort of thing happened with the Vandals in North Africa.
    The sea people were not partially composed of berbers but they fought with berbers/libyans against egypt during the XIIIth century BCE with the berber general Meryre ( it was during the first invasion of the sea people)
    "Without doubt, Publius Cornelius, when you shall have a view of Africa from the sea, the reduction of your province of Spain will appear to you to have been a mere matter of sport and pastime." Titus-Livus, XXVIII,42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason1234 View Post
    If they were mostly males, it's easy to understand why they would disappear into the native population in the space of a few centuries. The same sort of thing happened with the Vandals in North Africa.
    It is not that the members of the race disappeared. The genetic variants of the race disappeared. The maximum frequency of the genetic variants is the fundamental value underlying racial values. With that perspective, males are an advantage, in the context of a more desirable race invading a less desirable race. Males have a greater reproductive potential. North Africa has long been more caucasoid than negroid, largely for that reason.

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    is it possible that they migrated back to Greece?

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    Of course "Sea Peoples" duh.
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    • The Grimaldi African occupied Europe in ancient times.
    • The original Celtic priesthood were Blacks.
    • Black people constructed Stonehenge.
    • The Scots are themselves of Black origin.
    • The Irish are of black origin.
    • The Knights of King Arthur's round table were Blacks.
    • There was an African, Gormund who ruled Ireland at the time of the Anglo-Saxons.
    • The first King to unite Norway was Black. He was known as Halfdan the Black.
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