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  • British Empire

    5 8.47%
  • Mongol Empire

    2 3.39%
  • Russian Empire

    1 1.69%
  • Spanish Empire

    2 3.39%
  • Chinese Empire

    1 1.69%
  • Arab Empire

    3 5.08%
  • French Empire

    2 3.39%
  • Ottoman Empire

    6 10.17%
  • Portuguese Empire

    1 1.69%
  • Brazilian Empire

    0 0%
  • American Empire

    1 1.69%
  • Persian Empire

    3 5.08%
  • Japanese Empire

    1 1.69%
  • Seljuk Empire

    0 0%
  • Macedonian Empire

    1 1.69%
  • Roman/Byzantine Empire

    16 27.12%
  • Timurid/Mughal Empire

    0 0%
  • Hunnic Empire

    4 6.78%
  • Mexican Empire

    2 3.39%
  • OTHER (specify in thread)

    8 13.56%
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    Whether we like it or not, we're all the products of various historical empires (well, most of us anyway). Even the empires that oppressed our ancestors, we're a product of those empires too. Had for example the Ottomans (and their Kurdish puppets at the time), not been genociding Assyrians and Armenians, I wouldn't exist today. Probably not even my parents, who were born after my grandparents left south-eastern Turkey and later on my parents hooked up in Lebanon. The Assyrian gene pool would of course still be around, but the exact genetic code that turned out to be me, wouldn't have been made.

    So we can despise or admire old empires all we like, but had it not been for their activity (for better or worse), most of us wouldn't be around today. Gene pool is one thing, the individual mix within that gene pool is somethingelse.

    Furthermore, what exactly piqued @Semitic Duwa 's interest in indigenous American empires?
    I believe the main point they convey is that we shouldn't glorify empires due to many atrocities committed by empires, revealing the savage nature of humanity, mainly due to twisted, greedy, and selfish leadership with bloodlust...
    US govt official: “You have observed the white man for 90 years. You’ve seen his wars and his technological advances. You’ve seen his progess, and the damage he’s done.”

    Two Eagles: “When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women do all the work, medicine man free, Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing, all night having sex.... Only white man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sun Shield Pakal View Post
    I believe the main point they convey is that we shouldn't glorify empires due to many atrocities committed by empires, revealing the savage nature of humanity, mainly due to twisted, greedy, and selfish leadership with bloodlust...
    Sure, but my point remains valid still: had those empires not been greedy, murderous, bloody and so on, we would not be here today. White Americans for example, are exactly what and who they are, because the indigenous tribes were largely replaced. Even those indigenous Americans who still have no European ancestry (or African), wouldn't be here today; their tribe might very well still have been around, but the exact individuals of that tribe (as in gender, looks, the entire genome of said individuals), would not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    Sure, but my point remains valid still: had those empires not been greedy, murderous, bloody and so on, we would not be here today. White Americans for example, are exactly what and who they are, because the indigenous tribes were largely replaced. Even those indigenous Americans who still have no European ancestry (or African), wouldn't be here today; their tribe might very well still have been around, but the exact individuals of that tribe (as in gender, looks, the entire genome of said individuals), would not.
    I suppose so, but at least Indigenous Americans still got a chance at reviving their culture, status in the Americas and one day, achieve independence to become our own countries one day.
    US govt official: “You have observed the white man for 90 years. You’ve seen his wars and his technological advances. You’ve seen his progess, and the damage he’s done.”

    Two Eagles: “When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women do all the work, medicine man free, Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing, all night having sex.... Only white man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.”

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    The Pre WWI German Empire.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silk View Post
    British Empire.
    If you think India and Gambia were nice places to be in. But to be fair, Britain and Europe at that time was dirty and poor as well with non-drinkable water.
    The Future was better before

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    North Sea Empire.


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