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    I've been told that i look like Moroccans but when i saw a picture of their people, they look like mixed with negroe and asian even i dont even have negroes and asian influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asce View Post
    Gonna post some family members, so the pics will eventually come down.

    Cuz from Morocco - 1, 2, 3, 4

    Cousins from Orlando - Cuz, other cuz
    Your male cousins look a lot like you, you're almost a morph of them
    It's funny because i never heard about morroccan migrants in the US before.

    Do you know this guy? He's also living in the US right now, Frederic Fekkai,
    I'm reading he's either fully morrocan or half vietnamese, half egyptian.
    He has that nearly epicanthic look which occurs among berbers sometimes.

    Frédéric Fekkai (born 1958) is a French hairdresser, born in Aix-en-Provence, France, to Moroccan parents. He now lives in New York City.
    She dated Frédéric Fekkai, the hairdresser turned hair-care mogul; he’s French, though ethnically Egyptian and Vietnamese
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    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2414/...128_z.jpg?zz=1

    This man is part negroid and he is not riffian, though he could be from chefchaouen where some negroid mixed people exist due to slave trade. I never saw a Riffian with this look and it is clear that you are trying to negrify Moroccans because you are part negroid.

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    Flashrad, you're a fellow Moroccan, so naturally I have an innate respect for you. But please don't ever accuse me of something I'm not doing.

    That man is in no way shape or form negro (if he's got any sub-Saharan lineages, they must be laughably minimal ). He looks no different than a good portion of Canarians (e.g., berid types). He looks to be an unreduced cro-mag (which is a typical Moroccan phenotype, one present in Rif Moroccans as well).

    In regards to sub-Saharans that were brought into Moorish north Africa, most didn't make it past Rabat (as most Berber merchants involved in the sub-Saharan slave trade belonged to Masmuda or Sanhaja confederacies). Zenata Berbers had their own slaves/eunuchs (mostly Spaniards). This is why even amongst purer Saharan Berbers (like the Kabyles) I still see the occasional negro-influenced individual, whereas amongst Riffians I don't.

    That man looks 100 per cent north African caucasoid (genetics may paint a different picture, idk), whereas the blue-eyed Riffian man you posted on AnthroCivitas doesn't (who is in the relative minority, even for a Riffian), and neither did any of the other examples you posted on AnthroCiv (again, mostly consisting of atypical Moroccans/Berbers). Even Scala and Atlas have called you out on this (and they're Riffians ). So I think it'd be safer to assume it's you that has an agenda and not me. But I'll try to be objective, and assume that I'm just assuming too much.

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    The man looks clearly part negroid from that picture but maybe if there was an other clearer picture, the traits would have been more visible and thus more classifiable.

    Can you show me a Canarian whose traits are similar to this man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asce View Post
    Flashrad, you're a fellow Moroccan, so naturally I have an innate respect for you. But please don't ever accuse me of something I'm not doing.

    That man is in no way shape or form negro (if he's got any sub-Saharan lineages, they must be laughably minimal ). He looks no different than a good portion of Canarians (e.g., berid types). He looks to be an unreduced cro-mag (which is a typical Moroccan phenotype, one present in Rif Moroccans as well).

    In regards to sub-Saharans that were brought into Moorish north Africa, most didn't make it past Rabat (as most Berber merchants involved in the sub-Saharan slave trade belonged to Masmuda or Sanhaja confederacies). Zenata Berbers had their own slaves/eunuchs (mostly Spaniards). This is why even amongst purer Saharan Berbers (like the Kabyles) I still see the occasional negro-influenced individual, whereas amongst Riffians I don't.
    Saharans the Kabyles ? Cf; for "purer" Saharan Berbers, you'll find them in Biskra or among the Regibat.
    This is only true for the Maraboutic casts and some refugees from the High Plateaus after the Hillalian razzias in Eastern Kabylie, but again Northern Algeria from Gouraya (150 kms at the West of Algiers) until Tamalous near Skikda has a pretty homogenous make up, we find even the same tribes at the same place since the Roman Era (Flasenes, Faraxen, Uccutameni), I never heard that story of Saharan blood (unless there's a contamination from Tunisia within the area where I'm from : Hillali-Huwwara mutts usually, Gypsy looking).

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    Moroccans are good athletes too, especially in martial arts.
    The ratio of Moroccans participating and excelling in martial arts in Western Europe is very high.

    Some pics:
    Badr "Bad Boy/Golden Boy" Hari (strong, fast, very aggresive heavyweight; both extremely loved and hated)

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    Faldir "Fast" Chahbari (very technical, blind in one eye)

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    Chaid Oulad "The Pitbull" El Hadj (always coming forward, delivers spectacular fights, tough as nails)

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    Mohamed "Mootje" Khamal (smart, technical fighter)
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    L'houcine "Aussi" Ouzgni (don't really know much about him)
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    And there's many more of 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashrad View Post
    But how could some Moroccans have epicanthic eye folds??? Is it khoisanid?
    A lot of my relatives have similar eyes to those boys, I believe slanted eyes are a cro-magnid trait (hence why a lot of Berbers/north-africans have it)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Firmus View Post
    Saharans the Kabyles ? Cf; for "purer" Saharan Berbers, you'll find them in Biskra or among the Regibat.
    This is only true for the Maraboutic casts and some refugees from the High Plateaus after the Hillalian razzias in Eastern Kabylie, but again Northern Algeria from Gouraya (150 kms at the West of Algiers) until Tamalous near Skikda has a pretty homogenous make up, we find even the same tribes at the same place since the Roman Era (Flasenes, Faraxen, Uccutameni), I never heard that story of Saharan blood (unless there's a contamination from Tunisia within the area where I'm from : Hillali-Huwwara mutts usually, Gypsy looking).
    I believe Kabyles were part of the Sanhaja inhabiting the Sahara?

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    For more; another photo gallery:
    http://www.pbase.com/tbiehn/morocco

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    Moroccans in Italy look more mixed.

    What region are they from (certainly not the Rif)?

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