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    Default Most R1a1a set to become R1a1a1

    Ysearch 56EXD of Germany (FTDNA kit 120406) belongs to the rare DYS392=13
    clade of R1a1a (R-M198). He recently submitted his 23andMe Y chromosome
    data to the Squecco spreadsheet. Unlike all others in R1a1a tested, he is
    ancestral for rs17316771 (known as M417) and rs34297606 (known as either
    Page07 or PAGES00007). These two SNPs were listed in Krahn's draft
    haplotree as equivalent to M17 and M198. His Ymap database lists their
    primers as known.


    http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.co...-06/1276981529

    I have waited for this a long time (and others too I am sure).

    Mr Mayka deserves a lot of thanks for his great work.

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    Could you say anything about the geographical distribution of this DYS392=13
    clade of R1a1a?

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    So do we have any more insights? Great news by the way, but I'm real busy at the moz so I don't have time to stalk the internet for more info, or go on YHRD and investigate this haplogroup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wojewoda View Post
    Could you say anything about the geographical distribution of this DYS392=13
    clade of R1a1a?
    R1a1a with DYS 392 =13 is found in low frequency in Europe (not just in Eastern Europe, but the British Isle and Iberia too), India, Nepal and Egypt. I don't if this is a clade (I guess not). Some of them could be M417+, and some could be negative for other SNPs. It is also too early to say if all R1a1a with DYS = 11 are M417+, but most will be (at the very least in Europeans).

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    Hi, Paul
    FTDNA haven't got a M417 test yet. Do you know where to get it?
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    SNP: L23- L49- L158- L168+ L175- L176- M124- M157- M173+ M198+ M334- M343- M56- M64.2- PK5- P98- SRY10831.2+
    mtDNA: H2a5

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiono View Post
    Hi, Paul
    FTDNA haven't got a M417 test yet. Do you know where to get it?
    It is a part of the 23andme panel, I don't think FTDNA offers it. I am T, so ancestral is C.

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    So what exactly does it mean? anything worthwhile to say about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unurautare View Post
    So what exactly does it mean? anything worthwhile to say about this?
    Maybe it is that the spread of R1a is far more complex than most people think?

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    I already think it's very complex. Hope this will mean more clarity in that question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_Johnsen View Post
    Maybe it is that the spread of R1a is far more complex than most people think?
    I doubt many people sit and think about their genetic heritage,my question is if this discovery/conclusion actually helps average humans in a way?(understand origins better or evolution or migrations or whatever) or why is R1a spread important in the 1st place?...I don't mean to be rude or something but I would appreciate if someone tells me the real life applications of this.

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